Wednesday, 2018-09-19

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T4<akaWolf> lets create actual wiki page: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo_new10:57
T4<akaWolf> who have access to twitter account?10:58
T4<akaWolf> latest twit at 201410:58
r0kk3rzlocusf probably11:01
r0kk3rz@akaWolf you mean this one https://twitter.com/NemoMobile11:02
r0kk3rz?11:02
T4<akaWolf> right11:03
r0kk3rzseems to have newer things than 201411:06
T4<akaWolf> yeah, latest twits have no nemo tag...11:11
r0kk3rzdo they really need one?11:12
T4<akaWolf> I think yes11:13
T4<akaWolf> and I think we need to post only twits related to Nemo11:14
T4<akaWolf> not about Necuno and not about Asteroid11:14
T4<eekkelund> AsteroidOS shares same base with NemoMobile :)11:15
T4<akaWolf> what? Mer?11:16
r0kk3rznot exactly11:17
r0kk3rzasteroid doesnt really use mer11:18
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [lets create actual wiki page: https://wiki.mer …], Add some links11:18
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [Add some links], which?11:19
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [which?], I added links on obs project ang git repo11:20
T4<akaWolf> okay thanks11:22
T4<neochapay> I think we need add "contpributing" part :))))11:23
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [I added links on obs project ang git repo], can you describe a little meaning of that links? what is a difference between nemomobile and nemomobile-ux? looks like nemomobile is something old.. which repos are actually in use?11:29
T4<akaWolf> also if you dont mind, I will move new Nemo page instead of old one11:29
r0kk3rztheres a few still in use11:30
r0kk3rzi think most of them should be nuked as they are now hosted in mer11:31
r0kk3rzlike qtquickcontrols-nemo should probably be moved to ux11:31
T4<akaWolf> it would be nice if someone write a little about current status11:31
r0kk3rzwhat does that even mean11:32
T4<neochapay> r0kk3rz and sessions repos11:32
T4<akaWolf> r0kk3rz, which repos are in use11:33
T4<neochapay> we use all - nemomobile and nemomobile-ux11:33
T4<neochapay> but in nemomobile we use only 3 repo u think11:34
r0kk3rz@akaWolf: in use *where* though, last I checked there wasnt really a bonafide nemo 'distribution' at all11:35
T4<akaWolf> sounds complicated, I think we can name a more or less bona fide what @neochapay doing...11:49
r0kk3rzits not that complicated11:52
r0kk3rzits mostly a hobby project that people hack on11:52
T4<akaWolf> yeah ofc11:54
T4<akaWolf> but I mean there are no public info available11:54
T4<akaWolf> what makes it hard to get more people involved11:54
r0kk3rz@akaWolf: is therea particular thing you want to get out of nemo?12:02
T4<akaWolf> there are nothing12:02
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [latest twit at 2014], A bird tweets... 😁12:11
r0kk3rztwitters definitely twit though12:11
T4<meierrom> @eekkelund [AsteroidOS shares same base with NemoMobile :)], Are you referring to libhybris?12:13
r0kk3rzasteroid does use libhybris, but so do lots of things12:14
T4<K31j0> I still don't think smartwatches are useful12:14
T4<akaWolf> I think that NemoMobile account should twit about Nemo Mobile :)12:15
r0kk3rz@meierrom asteroid and nemo share a lot of code, they're both Qt QML Lipstick based homescreens12:19
T4<locusf> glacier is12:21
T4<meierrom> @K31j0 [I still don't think smartwatches are useful], I think it's rather cool to get notifications on your watch especially if your phone is somewhere in your backpack. 😁12:21
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [twitters definitely twit though], OK. Sorry then... 😁12:22
T4<K31j0> It'd be cool if there was a legit smartwatch12:23
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [@meierrom asteroid and nemo share a lot of cod …], You can add sfos to that list as well :)12:25
r0kk3rzobviously12:25
T4<locusf> the mer+nemo merging took away quite a lot of code from nemo12:25
T4<locusf> its just the homescreen and its apps now12:26
T4<meierrom> @K31j0 [It'd be cool if there was a legit smartwatch], The pebble came close tho. That a shame...12:27
T4<meierrom> @K31j0 [It'd be cool if there was a legit smartwatch], [Edit] The pebble came close tho. What a shame...12:27
T4<K31j0> But it ded12:27
T4<meierrom> @K31j0 [But it ded], Yeah, and nothing better even in sight... :(12:31
T4<K31j0> There's only android wear... if you like that sort of thing12:35
T4<K31j0> (which I don't, shouldn't be surprising)12:35
r0kk3rzwat12:36
r0kk3rz'only android wear' in what sense?12:37
T4<akaWolf> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo#Nemo_Mobile — can someone help with filling that page with information needed to understanding current state of art of Nemo?12:38
T4<K31j0> in the sense of platforms that are actually usable and kind-of alive12:39
T4<K31j0> afaik asteroid doesn't have any app to sync with sfos or anything else12:39
r0kk3rztheres lots and lots if you care to look12:40
r0kk3rztizen watches are fairly cool12:40
T4<neochapay> hey maybe someone stop runbling and confirm my mr in glacier-home devel branch12:43
T4<neochapay> https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/77/files12:43
T4<neochapay> I think we can close that mr https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/6012:44
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [I think we can close that mr https://github.co …], why?12:45
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [why?], becouse all that code in devel branch and mr cant merge becouse it out of date12:46
T4<akaWolf> okay12:46
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [okay], https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/60#issuecomment-41166281012:46
T4<akaWolf> yeah I see12:46
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/ …], can you briefly describe that group of commits?12:47
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [can you briefly describe that group of commits …], https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/77/commits in desc of commits you can see all you need :)12:48
T4<akaWolf> so they are independent?12:48
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [so they are independent?], independend of what ?12:49
T4<akaWolf> of each other12:49
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [of each other], of other ?12:49
T4<K31j0> r0kk3rz: I respect you and stuff, but I'm nowhere frickin' near buying any Samsung device12:50
T4<abhishek_0> @K31j0 [r0kk3rz: I respect you and stuff, but I'm nowh …], this is goog12:50
T4<abhishek_0> *good12:50
r0kk3rz@K31j0: im not suggesting you buy anything12:51
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [tizen watches are fairly cool], Mer/nemo/sfos community doesn't show much interest in tizen watches. I wonder why, seriously...12:51
T4<neochapay> @meierrom [Mer/nemo/sfos community doesn't show much inte …], https://blog.jolla.com/watch/12:52
T4<akaWolf> my coworker just brough galaxy watch...12:53
r0kk3rz@meierrom, tizen is unfortunately really really locked down12:53
T4<K31j0> Also tizen is like swiss cheese12:53
r0kk3rzlocked bootloaders, no shell .etc12:53
r0kk3rz@K31j0: people in glass houses probably shouldn't throw stones12:54
T4<neochapay> can i add rule: if nobody don't say any think in my mr in devel branch of glacier-home i will merge it myself ?12:55
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [can i add rule: if nobody don't say any think …], I think there should be some delay...12:55
T4<neochapay> [Edit] can i add rule: if nobody don't say something in my mr in devel branch of glacier-home i will merge it myself ?12:56
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [I think there should be some delay...], 7 days ok ?12:56
T4<akaWolf> for me looks okay12:56
T4<akaWolf> another scenario is using something like likes...12:56
T4<neochapay> Anyway, apart from me, no one coding all just talking :))))12:57
T4<eekkelund> @neochapay [can i add rule: if nobody don't say something …], Yeah that sounds great, I have been myself really busy lately.. 😞12:57
T4<akaWolf> @akaWolf [another scenario is using something like likes …], neverming12:58
T4<neochapay> Okay if in 7 days nobody don't say somethink in mr i merge it myself....12:58
T4<K31j0> I don't think you'd want to see me code :P12:59
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [Anyway, apart from me, no one coding all just …], I'm trying to understand... and systemizing that knowledge12:59
T4<neochapay> (Photo, 600x700) http://149.202.119.142:9090/gysuhGPWAl.png13:00
T4<akaWolf> I think documenting also is very important part of software development13:01
T4<neochapay> open code best document :)13:01
r0kk3rzthen go forth and document, nobody will stop you13:02
T4<akaWolf> @r0kk3rz [then go forth and document, nobody will stop y …], I start from main page =)13:02
T4<neochapay> and yes - if you whant do that - welcome13:02
r0kk3rzthe issue is, you're trying to formalise stuff that is currently very very informal13:02
T4<akaWolf> I'm trying to understand issues and ways to fix them13:03
malwhich coding style is that code supposed to follow? qt coding style guide or something else?13:03
T4<eekkelund> @akaWolf [I start from main page =)], Thats great and very welcome as guys above said13:03
T4<meierrom> @neochapay [Anyway, apart from me, no one coding all just …], It's bad but things may change. Just keep it up. 👍13:04
T4<akaWolf> yeah, I think if we will actualize wiki, it will bring more developers13:05
T4<akaWolf> would*13:05
T4<neochapay> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2amplHN03w multiwindow and resizing on Glacier UX15:19
T4<eekkelund> OMG15:20
T4<locusf> (Sticker, 512x384) http://149.202.119.142:9090/YC4mECMVez.png15:25
T4<neochapay> (Sticker, 512x512) http://149.202.119.142:9090/pfJ5eNKxv0.png15:26
r0kk3rzNeoChapay: looks really cool, i think it will be even more cool on sony tablet15:27
T4<neochapay> Yeah...but I don't have it15:28
T4<meierrom> Sony tablet?15:42
r0kk3rzz3 tablet, i ported sailfish to it15:56
r0kk3rzglacier looked nice on it too - https://youtu.be/MPEFIGbaViQ15:57
T4<meierrom> Nice! 👍15:58
T4<locusf> you have the wifi tablet compact?15:58
r0kk3rzindeed15:59
r0kk3rzgot an LTE version too15:59
T4<locusf> hahah nice15:59
T4<locusf> gotta say it has such exquisite form factor16:00
r0kk3rzyeah its a nice thing16:00
r0kk3rzlight, good display, good speakers16:00
r0kk3rzpotato cameras, but who cares16:00
T4<locusf> what a way to look like an absolute asshat than taking photos with a tablet16:01
r0kk3rzdenoising the selfie cam would be nice for video conferencing16:03
r0kk3rzbut the mic on it isnt that amazing either tbh16:03
T4<locusf> just realized that portable xpra client would be badass16:04
r0kk3rzyeah i got a dinky bt keyboard for it and just ssh into stuff and web browse16:04
r0kk3rzi ported the tab support in literm to the mobile ui too16:06
T4<meierrom> You ported both tablets, scorpion and scorpion_windy?16:14
r0kk3rzthey are basically identical16:15
r0kk3rzi use the same adaptation for both16:15
T4<meierrom> Cool! Plans on working GSM yet?16:16
T4<locusf> working gsm?16:19
T4<locusf> its all there16:19
T4<locusf> same stack as jolla16:20
T4<locusf> though the telepathy stack is a bit crusty16:20
T4<samzn> I remember when I tried Nemo on the N916:20
T4<samzn> Rip we gotta get it working on the mainline kernel16:21
T4<locusf> filippz has done fantastic work on it16:21
T4<meierrom> @locusf [its all there], Not according to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_scorpion16:23
T4<locusf> aa16:28
r0kk3rzgsm works16:47
T4<samzn> @locusf [filippz has done fantastic work on it], That man is a magician17:03
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [gsm works], r0kk3rz: would make sense to update the page, or?17:16
r0kk3rzit would17:17
T4<meierrom> r0kk3rz: will you? :)17:21
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