Sunday, 2018-09-30

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T4<akaWolf> @locusf what do you think about posting at https://twitter.com/NemoMobile some news about Nemo development?13:49
T4<akaWolf> like that one: https://twitter.com/NemoMobile/status/98738312683715379313:51
T4<akaWolf> I think we can post window mode by @neochapay13:52
T4<akaWolf> who is currently developing something related to Nemo?13:54
T4<akaWolf> I know @samzn and @neochapay13:54
T4<akaWolf> please, tell if someone else13:54
T4<akaWolf> can we talk about some kind of roadmap?13:55
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [please, tell if someone else], There is @Schmiedolino aka Leif_Erikson, AFAIK. 😁14:30
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [@locusf what do you think about posting at htt …], +114:31
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [@locusf what do you think about posting at htt …], Yea news....ha ha14:54
T4<neochapay> If we what post news we need make news and code :)))14:56
r0kk3rznews == whatever NeoChapay has been up to14:58
T4<akaWolf> Maybe someone else15:07
T4<neochapay> Ha ha :)))15:13
T4<locusf> I'd be happy to pass the twitter torch but I don't remember the damn password15:13
T4<akaWolf> @locusf [I'd be happy to pass the twitter torch but I d …], Send pass to email?15:27
T4<locusf> not my account originally :)15:28
T4<akaWolf> Recovery pass15:28
T4<akaWolf> Hm15:28
T4<akaWolf> We need to get access back :)15:28
T4<akaWolf> @akaWolf [Maybe someone else], Hope I will be usefull. But we need to imagine, what we need to do and in which direction we should go.15:30
r0kk3rzjust build something cool and show everyone15:51
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [Hope I will be usefull. But we need to imagine …], The task is basically to push forward with nemo/glacier for it to become a true alternative to sfos ui, right?15:57
r0kk3rznope, the task is to build cool shit15:58
T4<meierrom> :))15:59
T4<meierrom> @samzn said he wants to create a package with nemo/glacier which could very easily be installed on any sfos device. That would be very cool!16:05
T4<samzn> I am more interested in developing nemo16:05
T4<samzn> Nemo already is easily installable in any sfos device16:05
r0kk3rzyeah its not exactly hard16:06
r0kk3rz@akaWolf: if you want to do stuff theres plenty to do, most of the apps are in something of a broken state16:07
r0kk3rzthe components could do with a bit more polish16:08
r0kk3rznew mer qt means we could rebase them on qqc2, which has been a plan for a while now16:08
T4<meierrom> What is currently the best mobile device to get started with the development of nemo/glacier? Xperia x?16:16
T4<akaWolf> It would be nice to understand the current status of all components of Nemo. Also it would be great to understsand which tasks wants to solve Nemo devs.16:17
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [I am more interested in developing nemo], What is your plans and vision?16:17
T4<akaWolf> @meierrom [What is currently the best mobile device to ge …], I buy Xperia X16:18
r0kk3rzthe easiest way to do that is to install the homescreen on something, install the apps16:18
r0kk3rzand see how it is16:18
T4<akaWolf> @r0kk3rz [just build something cool and show everyone], We need roadmap..16:18
r0kk3rzwhy?16:18
r0kk3rzthis is a very informal project16:19
T4<neochapay> @meierrom [What is currently the best mobile device to ge …], I use Nexus 516:19
r0kk3rzi put it on my sony tablet, use whatever you have16:19
T4<meierrom> Roadmap can come later. We need to find out where we are before.16:20
r0kk3rzwhats to find out16:21
r0kk3rzinstall it, run it, then you'll know16:21
T4<akaWolf> @r0kk3rz [this is a very informal project], I understand, but still we need t discuss ongoing and future work.16:21
r0kk3rzif you want to do something, just do it :)16:22
T4<akaWolf> https://img.youtube.com/vi/pHIClmE4CmE/mqdefault.jpg16:25
T4<akaWolf> Like so16:25
T4<akaWolf> Sorry was unable to find correct pic at english16:26
T4<meierrom> A key task may be to get silica apps work.16:26
T4<akaWolf> @r0kk3rz [if you want to do something, just do it :)], Im trying.. I would happy to get feedback from @samzn16:27
r0kk3rz@akaWolf: i understand your concern, but right now there arent enough people actively pushing code for that to be a major concern16:28
r0kk3rzif you have an idea you want to implement, then present it16:29
T4<meierrom> To come up with a to do list would be helpful anyway.16:30
r0kk3rzTODO:16:31
r0kk3rz1. whatever you want16:31
r0kk3rz2. see 116:31
T4<meierrom> :))16:32
T4<meierrom> I'll get a device to play around with nemo/glacier. This will help to find out what I want... :)16:33
T4<meierrom> @samzn what device do you use for nemo/glacier?16:37
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T4<akaWolf> not major, but I need to understand, where we are going at least...18:04
T4<akaWolf> @meierrom [The task is basically to push forward with nem …], for me that's so. I also write here a little about it: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo18:04
T4<akaWolf> btw, I tried to follow recipe here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier/Installing … at Emulator.. and got black screen18:05
T4<akaWolf> also I wanted to ask.. … http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/ux/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/ … here we have lipstick-glacier-home-qt5 … which is builded vs master branch … but development is going over devel branch … why so?18:09
T4<akaWolf> so the ideas was to keep stable version in master iiuc18:09
T4<akaWolf> idea*18:10
T4<akaWolf> so we need to merge devel into master I guess18:10
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay m?18:10
T4<samzn> @meierrom [@samzn what device do you use for nemo/glacier …], I had a Nexus 5 and now a Moto X218:12
T4<akaWolf> why not Xperia X?18:12
r0kk3rz@akaWolf: did lipstick start?18:21
T4<akaWolf> r0kk3rz, looks like: https://paste.akawolf.org/view/dmjvN18:26
T4<eekkelund> journal?18:27
T4<samzn> @akaWolf [why not Xperia X?], I don't have it, and I live in a third world shithole for Sony to even sell it here πŸ˜€18:28
T4<akaWolf> where are you live?18:29
T4<akaWolf> @eekkelund [journal?], ```$ journalctl --user-unit lipstick.service … No journal files were found. … -- No entries --```18:29
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [I don't have it, and I live in a third world s …], I also live in third world country β€” Russia :)18:30
T4<samzn> Brazil 😞(18:30
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [Brazil 😞(], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index … 39 place Brazil … 72 β€” Russia … ...18:33
T4<samzn> I really have no idea what is their methodology, but even countries in lower rank like Romania are so much more promising, and I have lived in those countries18:34
T4<samzn> But let's not get into politics or rant here or we lose all track :))18:34
T4<meierrom> Guys, life is not easy anywhere. Russia nor Brasil   are third world countries last time I checked. 😁18:35
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [But let's not get into politics or rant here o …], yeah, let's resume to Nemo.. what about your plans? :)18:35
kimmoliis Accione still selling?18:35
T4<samzn> Writing and developing a full proposal for Glacier Manhattan right now18:35
T4<samzn> I have got Nemo working on my X2 already :))18:36
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [so we need to merge devel into master I guess], No because some bugs we have18:36
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [No because some bugs we have], which bugs?18:36
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [Writing and developing a full proposal for Gla …], sounds interesting! will it be at top of devel branch?18:37
T4<samzn> I want to work alongside neochapay in all of it18:38
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [which bugs?], Test and say me :))))18:38
T4<samzn> I think we should adopt Agile methods for development18:38
kimmoliBut brazil is high on this index https://top5ofanything.com/index.php?h=c837433118:38
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [Test and say me :))))], yeah, I have a few questions...18:38
T4<neochapay> We need some treads on tmo I think...18:39
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [I think we should adopt Agile methods for deve …], in my experience agile is usefull only in big teams with tied timeline.. hm18:39
T4<samzn> We use agile methods in a very small team in Blade Symphony :))18:40
T4<akaWolf> anyway we need some roadmap, tasks and so on for that β€” the same what I think needed18:41
T4<meierrom> @samzn: being in Brazil, can you get accione p?18:53
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I had a Nexus 5 and now a Moto X2], Why did you stop using nexus 5?19:01
T4<samzn> @meierrom [@samzn: being in Brazil, can you get accione p …], I have no idea what that is19:04
T4<samzn> @meierrom [Why did you stop using nexus 5?], I needed some apps so I had to return it to android19:04
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I have no idea what that is], https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accione19:07
T4<samzn> Sadly not19:07
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I needed some apps so I had to return it to an …], Ic19:15
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I needed some apps so I had to return it to an …], Anyway, I was thinking of getting a nexus 5 perposly for nemo/Gracier development. 😁19:19
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [for me that's so. I also write here a little a …], The page is clearly stating the goal and I'm very cool with it. 😁19:26
T4<akaWolf> yeah, I stated goal19:30
T4<samzn> I wish we could use Nokia Pure for Nemo, but it's a proprietary typeface19:31
T4<samzn> Making a clone of it like Helvetica-like typefaces is way too time consuming19:31
T4<meierrom> @samzn [Sadly not], You may not be aware of this but the German sfos community is probably the best and largest out there. We struggle to get current Jolla supported devices like Inoi from Russia and Accione from Bolivia/Brasil.19:33
T4<samzn> I don't think Accione has any action in brazil19:34
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I don't think Accione has any action in brazil], This may change soon. Just keep your ears and eyes open. 😁19:36
T4<samzn> I doubt, they want to elect β€œnationalist” communists that want to regulate the entire market19:37
T4<samzn> But again, no getting into politics19:37
T4<NotKit> @samzn [I wish we could use Nokia Pure for Nemo, but i …], what is the current font in Nemo then? maybe could compare it with Noto Sans?19:41
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I doubt, they want to elect β€œnationalist” comm …], I'm no politician but it may be a good idea to prevent Chinese economic colonialism in South America like it is happening now in Africa. πŸ˜•19:42
T4<meierrom> @samzn [I wish we could use Nokia Pure for Nemo, but i …], We should be able to get a similar public domain one. I'll search tomorrow and report back. 😁19:46
T4<akaWolf> What about N8?19:46
T4<akaWolf> Oh Pure is not device!19:47
T4<akaWolf> [Edit] Oh Pure is not device?19:47
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [Oh Pure is not device?], It's a Nokia font. 😁19:49
T4<akaWolf> yeah, I see19:49
T4<akaWolf> I use Inconsolata :)19:49
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [I use Inconsolata :)], No offense but looks like courier, doesn't it?19:53
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [What about N8?], In fact I was thinking of getting a Nokia N9 with me ego after I saw Sam's Gracier manhattan. 😁19:54
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [What about N8?], [Edit] In fact I was thinking of getting a Nokia N9 with Meego after I saw Sam's Gracier manhattan. 😁19:55
T4<akaWolf> (Photo, 463x375) http://149.202.119.142:9090/VpIRq8sSDV.png19:56
T4<meierrom> As I guessed, similar to courier. Nokia pure has way more style. 😁20:01
T4<akaWolf> @meierrom [In fact I was thinking of getting a Nokia N9 w …], sorry I mean … https://www.xda-developers.com/nokia-8-bootloader-unlock/20:01
T4<akaWolf> @meierrom [As I guessed, similar to courier. Nokia pure h …], Im programmer, not designer...20:01
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [Im programmer, not designer...], πŸ‘Œ20:06
T4<akaWolf> Nokia Pure looks nice :)20:06
T4<akaWolf> but not for programming ofc20:07
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [sorry I mean … https://www.xda-developers.com/no …], Nokia is no longer what it used to be. I wouldn't say no to N900 or N9 though. 😁20:08
T4<akaWolf> have someone tried Glacier UX from master at latest Emul?20:09

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