Monday, 2019-04-15

T4<m_aurel> Will Nemo Mobile be continued after the announcement of Jolla? https://blog.jolla.com/message-in-a-bottle/07:59
T4<akaWolf> why not08:00
T4<m_aurel> Because Mer won't exist any more, but it would be migrated to Sailfish core. won't it?08:01
r0kk3rzit wont have any affect08:01
r0kk3rzthe changes have already been done08:02
T4<abranson> @m_aurel [Because Mer won't exist any more, but it would …], if anything, Nemo should get a boost.08:04
T4<m_aurel> Ok. Sounds good.08:04
T4<abranson> there's an opportunity to promote nemo within sailfish core as a fully open source alternative to silica and jolla's homescreen. i don't think there's much competition between the two as they attract very different audiences, and there's plenty of potential for benefit on both sides. if anyone has suggestions on how that might work, then08:10
T4 let me know.08:10
T4<akaWolf> the main goal is the ability to seamlessly switch from Silica to Glacier08:13
T4<m_aurel> We still think about shipping our device with Nemo Mobile. I hope to discuss this on our community event.08:13
T4<akaWolf> and back08:13
T4<akaWolf> using open core08:15
T4<m_aurel> @akaWolf I thought Silica is on a different level. You mean a switch between the Glacier UX and the Sailfish UX?08:15
T4<akaWolf> yep08:15
T4<m_aurel> Because Silica is missing in Nemo Mobile, all Sailfish apps won't run. This is an issue for pushing NEmo Mobile as an alternative.08:16
T4<akaWolf> fragmentation of the application market is a major issue08:17
T4<m_aurel> I agree.08:17
T4<akaWolf> which is going with the support of Jolla unfortunately08:17
T4<akaWolf> stick with our own Silica without ability to switch to another one08:18
T4<akaWolf> I'm not surprised why there are so little application developers08:19
T4<akaWolf> so few*08:19
T4<m_aurel> This is the "Nemo-Silica", isn't it? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Qtquickcontrols-nemo08:19
r0kk3rzish08:20
r0kk3rzthat and the glacier ux homescreen08:21
T4<akaWolf> something like so08:21
T4<m_aurel> One of the suggested topics at our community event is to discuss a mapping library (maybe it's the wrong wording), a library, that ensures the compatibility.08:22
T4<neochapay> What will be better use https://bugs.nemomobile.org/ or github issues ?08:24
T4<akaWolf> @m_aurel [One of the suggested topics at our community e …], nice idea. but you need to support it, handle all changes in Silica. a lot of effort08:24
T4<abranson> it would do everyone good to be able to support apps written with standard qtquick2 controls08:25
T4<akaWolf> yep08:25
T4<m_aurel> I'm afraid you are right. So we think, that we just offer an upgrade of the device to a community port of Sailfish. This should be feasable, shouldn't it?08:25
T4<akaWolf> the best thing is to use standard controls08:25
T4<m_aurel> @abranson So UBports apps should work, correct?08:26
T4<akaWolf> with upstream what is lacked08:26
T4<abranson> @m_aurel [@abranson So UBports apps should work, correct …], i think they have their own ubuntu components, don't they?08:26
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T4<akaWolf> up to you08:27
T4<akaWolf> @m_aurel [I'm afraid you are right. So we think, that we …], looks like08:27
T4<minlexx> @abranson [i think they have their own ubuntu components, …], https://api-docs.ubports.com/sdk/apps/qml/index.html08:50
T4<abranson> yeah I remember seeing them in ub qml08:52
r0kk3rz@abranson, the issue is that developers will likely choose to use silica anyway08:52
r0kk3rz@neochapay, do you need a nemo-developers channel ;)08:53
T4<abranson> for sailfish apps, sure. but we already have apps such as fahrplan that support both, albeit not with common code08:55
T4<abranson> i just see two separate domains. polished, productized, commercial sailfish, and standards focused, open source, hackable but a bit bleeding edge nemo.08:56
T4<m_aurel> What's about the Sailfish community ports. They are something in between?08:58
r0kk3rzcommunity rnd mostly08:58
T4<neochapay> @r0kk3rz [@neochapay, do you need a nemo-developers chan …], yea....09:00
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T4<toxip> Fwd from m_aurel: Hello Sailfish developers. Maybe someone is interested in our community event with a hackathon. http://volla.online/blog/files/community-days.html11:09
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