Thursday, 2013-02-28

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vgradew00t: time for bed I think, hardcoding the screen.width/hight does change things but still not filling the screen. I also see other references to screen.width in other qml files00:49
vgradew00t: good way to learn00:50
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chriadamgconf values for /desktop/jolla/components/screen_width etc?00:52
chriadamvgrade ^00:53
chriadamerr, I'm probably wrong, nvm.00:53
mvogtchriadam: no, not gconf - taken from QDesktopWidget if available00:55
vgradechriadam: I only saw rotation in gconf01:02
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Stskeepsgood morning all06:07
chriadamgood morning06:07
dm8tbrgood moaning06:12
pyksy'Allo 'Allo <306:15
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maddogecoHas anybody scene any issue with the VM that came with the Sailfish SDK? the vm would start for me at first due to kernel issues. The when it did start it hard rebooted my PC halfway through the VM starting08:50
Stskeepswhat kind of PC do you have , linux distro, memory?08:51
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maddogeco8gb ram on ubuntu  12.1008:54
Stskeeps32 or 64 bit?08:54
Stskeepsmaddogeco: and kernel version = ?08:55
maddogecoKernel Linux 3.5.0-25-generic08:55
maddogecoits wierd becuase its such a instant reboot it like a power cut then instantly rebooting09:00
lbtmaddogeco: is it reproducable?09:01
maddogecoive done it twice09:01
maddogecoi dont know if there is any system logging as it happens09:02
lbthow old/new is the hardware09:02
maddogeco2 month old i5 desktop09:03
lbtwhich VM09:03
lbtOK - do you use vbox for any other VMs ?09:03
maddogecovirtual box09:03
Stskeepsmaddogeco: is your host OS ubuntu 12.10?09:03
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merlin1991Stskeeps: he said so 10 mins ago ;)09:04
MerbotUbuntu bug 1004597 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sudden hard reset (reboot) caused by VirtualBox" [High,Confirmed]09:04
lbtWORKAROUND: Disabling 3D _and_ 2D acceleration in the virtual machine fixed the issue.09:05
lbtcould you try that maddogeco09:05
lbtthey are raising nvdia as a possibility09:05
lbtdo you have nvidia driver/gpu ?09:06
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maddogecoi think it may be an nvidia driver09:06
maddogeco3d and 2d acceleration were already off09:07
lbtOK - do you use vbox for any other VM images ?09:07
maddogecoyes it is an nvidia graphics card09:07
maddogecoi hope i didnt break it following these instructions becuase the VM would startat all at first09:08
maddogecono i just installed it for the Sailfish SDK09:08
maddogecoi should metion im pretty new to linux in general about 2 or 3 months as it being my main home machine09:09
lbtOK - it may be worth downloading an ubuntu VM image and seeing if that works09:09
maddogecoill give it a go09:10
lbtmaddogeco: hehe - sorry you're hitting this kind of problem. It's pretty unusual (it's the first report I've seen)09:10
lbtthe objective is to find a working image and settings09:10
lbtthen we can compare and see if we can move towards that and then isolate the issue09:11
maddogecoim glad there are people out there willing to help09:11
lbtI also wonder about BIOS settings for virtualisation09:11
Nicd-here's one thing to try too:
MerbotUbuntu bug 1004597 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sudden hard reset (reboot) caused by VirtualBox" [High,Confirmed]09:11
MFaro-Tusinometa vm is annoying, removing the windows partition from an older pc, and tryung to get ubuntu on it, for the last 2 hours. no method of install wants to work :/09:11
Nicd-(open xorg drivers)09:11
lbtnext time you reboot, can you go into your BIOS and see if there's a setting to enable virtualisation09:11
lbtMFaro-Tusino: not sure what you mean?09:12
MFaro-Tusinoi had ubuntu vm on mac, and ran sdk in it, but too slow to do anything and causes lots of issues09:13
Sfiet_KonstantinMFaro-Tusino: boot your linux partition09:13
Sfiet_Konstantindon't be lazy09:13
Sfiet_Konstantinit is awesome09:13
MFaro-Tusinonow i am reformatting windows desktop i have with ubuntu but its not working09:14
MFaro-Tusinoi dont have one sfiet09:14
Sfiet_Konstantindual VM might not be a good idea indeed09:14
Sfiet_Konstantindid you see my vid on the main components of the SDK ?09:14
MFaro-Tusinoits a terrible idea but i hadnt had a chance to format the desktop yet09:15
MFaro-Tusinono, link?09:15
MFaro-Tusinolets take this to pm :)09:15
Nicd-MFaro-Tusino: installing ubuntu on windows with wubi is the easiest way09:15
lbtMFaro-Tusino: *nod* nested VMs like that are probably more a fun exercise than a real solution. Dual boot should be an option though09:15
maddogeco@MFaro-Tusino so you had a mac running a ubuntu vm runing a sailfish VM? inception ?09:16
Sfiet_Konstantinpeople complain that there is no win mac version, but nowadays, it is not that hard to get a linux running on most of the configs isn't it ?09:16
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veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, dual booting is PITA09:17
MFaro-Tusinoyes i know, whcih is why i am trying to replace windows install (its crap anyway but my parents used it for work)09:17
MFaro-Tusinoyay! finally!09:17
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: well, why is it PITA ?09:18
Nicd-I tried a VM in VM on my mac too, just for fun09:18
Nicd-it was horrible :D09:18
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, You always got stuff you need on the other side and sharing is not as convienent as with a VM09:19
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: but you have perf09:19
Sfiet_Konstantinand you know, mounting ntfs under linux is not hard09:19
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, yeah thats the good side. I just hate constant booting you end up doing09:19
Sfiet_Konstantinso just keep everything on windows if you are often using windows09:19
Sfiet_Konstantinand migrate when you feel that you are usng linux more09:19
maddogeco@lbt would it matter if it a 32bit or 64 ubuntu VM?09:19
Nicd-I'd love if I could hibernate OS X when I'm booting to Windows, but sadly it's not possible :(09:20
Sfiet_Konstantinmaddogeco: maybe, but for 8gb RAM you would love 64 bits :D09:20
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, Well, I got mac at home so no NTFS09:20
lbtmaddogeco: get a 32 bit one09:20
MFaro-Tusinovm was an easier solution for me and i needed to access files and programs on both09:20
lbtour VMs are 32bit09:20
MFaro-Tusinobut now that i do more intense work its not good09:20
lbtso if it's just to test it would be closest09:20
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: I see09:21
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, and on the work side I still haven't found a good solution for exchange access on Linux.09:22
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: you got the point on Mac, but I feel that the situation is often quite good on most PC09:22
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: there are not ...09:22
MFaro-Tusinowell installer seems to have frozen up at the account picture screen .09:24
lbtdirectly on the desktop machine?09:24
MFaro-Tusinoyep :/ i will just leave it, hope it fixes itself09:25
MFaro-Tusinosailfish related question now09:25
MFaro-Tusinoveskuh can probably answer best09:25
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lbtMFaro-Tusino: I suggest running memtest - usually available as one of the options in the installer09:26
MFaro-Tusinothe sailfish target rootfs, what changes are needed to be run on arm?09:26
MFaro-Tusinoi did that before, was fine09:26
lbtMFaro-Tusino: you need an arm rootfs and we haven't released one yet09:26
MFaro-Tusinoso we cant even adapt it?09:27
lbthowever it would just install as another target09:27
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: basically, isn't it just the i586 rootfs cross compiled on ARM ? :)09:27
lbtSfiet_Konstantin: yes is the simple answer09:27
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: no is the complex one :D09:27
Sfiet_KonstantinI prefer the simple :)09:27
lbtit's pretty accurate - our setup in Mer is such that we target different architectures as a matter of course09:28
lbtso making an arm root is the same as making an x86 root - it's not secondary09:29
lbtsemantics - ignore me "yes, it's just a cross-compile to ARM"09:29
Sfiet_Konstantinok then09:30
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maddogeco@lbt just realised that there was a Mer VM there as well. it started with no issues.09:36
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lbtmaddogeco: OK - interesting09:38
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maddogecogoing to try sailfish again may be rebooting if i like it or not09:40
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lbtmaddogeco: uh-huh :)09:45
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maddogeco@lbt it worked for about 10 seconds i saw the sailfish in the water back ground and then it died09:47
lbtStskeeps: just FYI ^^09:48
lbtmaddogeco: so can you open the settings for the VM09:48
lbtvbox -> pick VM, pick settings -> System ->Processor09:49
lbterm -> Acceleration (at the end)09:49
lbtdisable both those09:49
maddogecook done09:49
lbt(oh, did you see anything in BIOS about acceleration)09:49
maddogecono too many pop up about capturing mouse moments as it was starting09:50
maddogecook ill try agian09:51
lbtmaddogeco: I meant your actual laptop09:53
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maddogeco@lbt that was worse didnt get as far into the boot process before it rebooted09:54
lbtmaddogeco: so the BIOS - I meant your actual laptop BIOS09:55
maddogecowhat should i be looking for there sorry?09:55
lbtoften there's an option to enable hardware acceleration09:56
lbtsometimes it's reported as enabled but disabled in the bios09:56
maddogecook so should i enable it in the bios?09:56
maddogecowill try in a moment10:00
maddogecodoesnt look like my bios has any hardware accelaration options10:08
lbtso - try to get the ubuntu VM going10:09
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maddogecoBAM!!! its Sailfish is GO!!10:19
maddogecointel virtualiztion in bios on and hardware virtualization on in vm  settings10:20
maddogecomassive thanks @lbt10:20
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lbtmaddogeco: ah, ok - so it was almost certainly the BIOS setting10:22
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maddogecoafter i changed my bios it did crash once but didnt the first time i tried with the vm acceleration on10:23
spider-mariois there a root password in the VM?10:24
maddogeco@spider-mario not that i know but this could help
spider-mariothanks :)10:29
spider-marioit doesn’t seem to tell but thank you anyway10:29
lbtspider-mario: there is - but most people use ssh10:31
lbtroot is root/nemo on the emulator and root/rootme on the SDK10:31
lbtyou can only use it from console though10:31
spider-mariook, thanks. :D10:31
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spider-marioI’m wondering, maybe Silica components would run as they are, on desktop platforms?10:35
spider-marioit might ease development by not requiring to push to the emulator as often10:35
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maddogecoThanks everyone for you help tonight. im tapping out.10:37
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spider-mario“tonight”. :p10:37
spider-marioit’s actually 11:38 AM where I am10:38
lbtspider-mario: I agree10:38
spider-marioregarding Silica components?10:38
lbthowever I think it would be too hard to provide builds that would work on all distros10:39
spider-marioprobably, indeed10:40
lbtI wonder if we could do something simple for just qmlviewer though10:40
lbtnot sure how valuable it would be - and then it may be annoying if you hit limitations too soon10:40
lbtmaybe we just need to improve the deployment step - continous rsync of code as we write may help :)10:41
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w00tlbt: think bigger... we need to make the SDK write your code for you too :)10:49
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phakowell. star trek style. "Computer, write me an application that can..."10:50
lbtwe have that... watch:10:51
* phako watches10:51
lbtw00t: "write me an application that rotates a tree"10:51
spider-mario“Hello, SDK. I would like an awesome application, please.10:51
spider-mario— Could you please be more specific?10:51
spider-mario— […]”10:51
spider-marioand by the end of the conversation, you’ve essentially written an app in a very high level language10:51
w00tlbt: dammit10:51
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Yanielspeaking of rotating trees, how is GLES support on sailfish?11:31
Stskeepsthe emulator supports it but don't export texture from pixmap to work properly all the time11:32
janilbt: thanks btw for those =)11:33
lbtjani: np ... for what?11:33
janilbt: l/p for sdk and emu =)11:34
lbtah .... ty11:34
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areversatyou guys rock, I'm porting my app to silica and I removed most of the hacks I had to use with harmattan :)14:06
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sledgesfaenil, \o14:32
areversatStskeeps: I don't have it here, I'll make one tonight or this week end14:32
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Sfiet_Konstantinhi !17:07
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, ! Sfiet_Konstantin :)17:53
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah sledges ?17:54
sledgesthat was as 'hello' :))17:56
sledgeshow wa/is MWC?17:57
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, it hurt feets17:58
Sfiet_KonstantinI have seen awesome people17:58
Sfiet_KonstantinNokia booth is the best place to eat and rest17:59
Sfiet_KonstantinFirefox booth is pretty, prettier than Firefox OS17:59
Sfiet_Konstantineven with a live demo, ubuntu do not convince me17:59
Sfiet_Konstantinandroid is leading the clone wars17:59
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause Sony, HTC, LG, Samsung, Huawei, ZTE and others are just performing phone cloning18:00
Sfiet_Konstantinno big announcements (aka no surprise, most of the phone leaked)18:00
Sfiet_KonstantinSailfish is pretty, the SDK is pretty as well, but Jolla were virtually invisible, except for the Sailfish girls18:01
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's my summary :)18:01
sledgesnice in a nutshell :)18:01
Sfiet_Konstantinindeed, nice for a first experience18:01
suosaaskiand the sailfish girls weren't even "jollas", iirc...18:02
Sfiet_Konstantinalthough the rainy weather is less nice :(18:02
Sfiet_Konstantinsuosaaski: they were sailfish girls, a nice marketing action for a company without booth18:02
Sfiet_Konstantinsince 95% of MWC visitors are male, that works pretty well :P18:02
suosaaskibut iirc they were not organized by jolla, but some third party.18:03
suosaaskibut whatever, doesn't really matter :)18:03
Sfiet_KonstantinJolla coordinated them I think, there is noone that decided to say: "hey, let's promote sailfish"18:03
sledgesis MD giving keynote today?18:03
Sfiet_Konstantin"let's promote sailfish, an OS that do not exist"18:03
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I had to upgrade by paying 1k€ to see MD18:04
Sfiet_Konstantinso yeah, but sadly I did not go18:04
sledgesso he's speaking now?18:04
sledgesbut no live stream hence the 1k18:04
Sfiet_Konstantin^best summary available18:04
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: no, he spoke at 9.30 this morning18:04
shmerl> Operators have a fear of becoming a bit pipe18:04
shmerlI have no problem with that personally. Actually it's not good when operators aren't a bit pipe IMHO.18:05
Sfiet_Konstantinfor operators, they have to be a bit pipe without feeling it18:05
Sfiet_Konstantinif they feel it, they will abandon, or raise the price18:06
shmerlIf they aren't a bit pipe they start discriminating traffic and all that junk.18:06
Sfiet_Konstantinor put crapware on your phone18:06
sledgestime to analytically sink into his thoughts :)18:06
Sfiet_KonstantinI had that mixed feelings when MD said that there is that "operator custom" area in the feed view18:07
Sfiet_Konstantinmore crapware inside your feed view ? :S18:07
shmerlSfiet_Konstantin: Yeah :) I understand that Jolla tries to appeal to operators. But it's conflicting with users interests often.18:10
Sfiet_Konstantinshmerl: except if there is something called "vodafone-custom" that appeared in the package manager18:11
Sfiet_Konstantinand that you can click on uninstall :D18:11
shmerlSure, that would be ideal18:11
shmerlBut Sailfish should explicitly prevent having "unremovable" stuff from operators.18:12
shmerlI'm not sure how this is addressed yet.18:13
Sfiet_Konstantinshmerl: Sailfish is not harmattan18:16
Sfiet_Konstantinand the used is free to do what he/she want18:16
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, having a package manager and stuff might be something hard enough for the basic user to remove operator custom :D18:16
shmerlRight, and hopefully that won't break stuff.18:17
Sfiet_Konstantinand well, if operators put garbage, and make user unsatisfied, they would know it, and change their policy18:17
shmerlFor example I'd like to be able to wipe FB application :)18:17
shmerlNever used one in Harmattan and you couldn't easily remove it.18:17
Sfiet_Konstantinshmerl: I think that Sailfish will be designed in a better way18:18
Sfiet_Konstantinas the device is hackable18:18
Sfiet_Konstantinand might be even more flexible than harmattan18:18
shmerlHopefully so, especially in the UI and configurability.18:19
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I didn't get many info on that18:19
shmerlIn the video there was just "it's possible, we are looking at it".18:19
shmerlIt sounds like not all things are final yet.18:20
shmerl(for example about adding user plugins to the status bar and etc.)18:20
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Sfiet_Konstantinshmerl: it is possible if there is source18:21
Sfiet_Konstantinor QML file to change :D18:21
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shmerlThere probably will be at some point.18:22
Sfiet_Konstantinand if there is that operator custom area18:23
Sfiet_Konstantinthere will be the capability for a thirdparty dev to plug into that18:23
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stefan1984~/SailfishOS/bin$ ./qtcreator18:43
stefan1984Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40802) with this library (version 0x40803)18:43
stefan1984Avbruten (SIGABRT)18:43
stefan1984  How do i get the SDK running18:43
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Yanieldo you have another qt sdk installed18:45
Yanieland in PATH?18:45
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stefan1984i run a kde dist and i have qt-4.8.2 installed18:56
Yanielprobably that is interfering then18:56
stefan1984could an  ld_preload solve it18:57
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stefan1984I needed LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/SailfishOS/lib/qtcreator ./qtcreator19:07
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maePinging lbt?19:30
maeRemeber me from the other day; Ubuntu 11.04, couldn't connect to SDK VM19:32
lbtyep - hi19:32
lbtthe mixed news is that my wife installed on her 11.04 and it was fine :D19:33
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maeHi. That part works now -- I deleted the pre-set port mapping for ssh and created it again. Voila!19:33
lbtso the good news is there are no major problems ... we can make it work19:33
lbtOK - nice19:33
maeYes and no... Nice that it works; not-so-nice that VirtualBox messed us up for a couple hours!19:34
maeNext issue is now that qtcreator can't hook up properly with the emu; "Server rejected key". Am googling; any quick fix you know of?19:35
lbttried known issues?19:36
lbterm and timing is really bad19:36
lbtdinner is ready here ...19:36
lbtsorry :(19:36
maeHey, no prob!  :-)  Have a good evening; thanks for your time.19:37
Sfiet_Konstantinmae, what's your problem with server rejected key ?19:37
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* lbt gets chance to yell before his wife drags him away...19:39
maeSfiet: qtcreator, Options, Devices, Test: Then I get: SSH connection failure: Server rejected key.19:40
maeSo the emu doesn't like me. It's not the timeout issue in the issues list lbt points to; my DNS is in order, me thinks.19:42
kaltsimae have you tried to ssh to the emu?19:43
Sfiet_Konstantinmae: second I will try19:44
Stskeepshow many ssh keys do you have?19:44
Stskeepsin .ssh/19:44
kaltsissh -p 2223 -i ~/.ssh/mermer-qt-creator-rsa nemo@localhost19:44
kaltsioops.. just mer-qt.. not mermer19:44
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maeStskeeps: Several keys. Am looking at ssh -vvvv output now.19:48
maedebug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/mae/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa19:48
maedebug3: send_pubkey_test19:48
maedebug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply19:48
maedebug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey19:48
maedebug2: we did not send a packet, disable method19:48
maedebug1: No more authentication methods to try.19:48
maePermission denied (publickey).19:48
maeAh: Further up: debug3: Incorrect RSA1 identifier19:49
maedebug3: Could not load "/home/mae/.ssh/" as a RSA1 public key19:49
Stskeepsthat looks more like a problem19:49
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maeSo, for those following my install problems: I wiped *everything* Sailfish from my system (including ssh keys) and did a fresh install. And now everything works!20:41
Stskeepswoo :)20:42
Stskeepsmay you enjoy good sailfish sdk times20:42
junglizerhooray \o/20:43
maeA question, then: 'top' on the emu says mcompositor and Xorg split the CPU 50/50, even when at the (blank) lockscreen. Does that sound reasonable to you?20:44
Stskeepsmae: it's sw rendering but yes, that sounds a little high20:45
maeBut continuous rendering of a black canvas? My virtual battery is bleeding  :-)20:45
sardinihello, nice job 'sailfisher' ? good luck for future20:45
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Yanielfisher of sails?20:46
Stskeepsjolla employees are called sailors20:46
YanielI'd say anything related :)20:46
Yaniellike the logo20:47
Stskeepsmae: please help gdb or strace it :)20:47
maestskeeps: strace on compositor: Looks like a continuous write/poll/read loop on fd 6, a socket (6267). Xorg has a socket called 6268, so I'm guessing it's the two that are communicating.20:53
maeHm. Gdb then. Let's see if I have symbols...20:53
maeArgh. Can't cut from VM console. Hang on.20:56
lbtmae: ah you're back20:59
lbtand it worked - cool21:00
maelbt: Yes. Now looking at stack traces. Better -- I guess...   :-)21:00
maestskeeps: Some stack for you (is this the right thing for me to do in such a forum? I'm a newbie with IRC)21:01
mae#7  0x6f7afb13 in MRestacker::execute(QVector<MRestacker::WindowOrder> const&) () from /usr/lib/
mae#8  0x6f7b0da8 in MRestacker::restack(QList<unsigned long>) () from /usr/lib/
mae#9  0x6f79dab4 in MCompositeManagerPrivate::checkStacking(bool, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/
mae#10 0x6f79ea13 in MCompositeManagerPrivate::stackingTimeout() () from /usr/lib/
mae#11 0x6f7b4408 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
mae#12 0x6ea27060 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/
mae#13 0x6ea7dd16 in QTimer::timeout() () from /usr/lib/
mae#14 0x6ea30a0e in QTimer::timerEvent(QTimerEvent*) () from /usr/lib/
mae#15 0x6ea2bd2c in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/
lbtmae: noooo21:01
mae#16 0x6ece32bc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/
mae#17 0x6ece86e5 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/
mae#18 0x6ea11c9d in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/
lbt or some other pastebin service21:02
maeSo, a timer firing, I guess? Or is it an event that triggers the redraw?21:02
maeOK, thanks. Like they used to say about Usenet on the universities: It's September all year...21:02
lbt... so here's the top line in top on my emul:   54 root      20   0 20664 8012 1372 S  0.7  1.6   1:59.17 systemd-journal21:03
lbtCpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st21:03
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lbtso that's in locked mode - same in any other static situation too21:03
maelbt: Odd; right now it's at 65/32 between comp/Xorg. I'll try to reboot the emu and see if it's consistent.21:05
* lbt suggests killing mcompositor21:05
lbtbefore a reboot21:05
maeThat looks more sane. Lipstick and comp spent some quality time for a few secs, then went back to idling.21:06
maeWill try to trigger it again.21:07
Nicd-hmm, sailfish sdk installation failed :(21:08
lbtwhat went  wrong Nicd-21:10
Nicd-Execution failed (Unexpected exit code: 1): "/home/nicd/SailfishOS/bin/merssh generatesshkeys /home/nicd/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa /home/nicd/.ssh/"21:11
lbthmm - is your home /home/nicd ?21:11
lbtand do you have /home/nicd/.ssh - check in there to see if those files were made21:12
Nicd-dir exists but is empty21:12
lbtwhat permissions does the dir have?21:12
lbtls -laFd ~/.ssh/21:12
lbtowned by you?21:13
Nicd-uhh, apparently not. I was looking at . and .. the wrong way21:13
lbtwho owns it?21:13
lbtdid you possibly run the installer as root21:13
lbtdate on the dir?21:14
Nicd-updated ~350 packages :P21:14
Nicd-possibly something to do with that or a stupid ubuntu decision21:14
lbtyeah - we'll call it planetary alignment21:15
lbtsudo chown .ssh to yourself21:15
Nicd-thanks lbt :)21:15
Nicd-yeah, I did21:15
lbt*g* ... can never tell who knows what21:15
Nicd-it's continuing now. nice of you to put in an ignore/cancel/retry function instead of just failing :)21:16
lbtoh, nice21:16
lbtthose clever Qt guys in germany21:16
maelbt: Cannot trigger the high CPU load again. Thanks, and good night.21:19
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lbt.... good21:21
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Nicd-hmm, my qtcreator tries to connect to localhost:222321:29
Nicd-instead of 222221:29
Yanielone is the sdk21:29
Yanieland the other is the emulator21:29
Nicd-in any case it's just telling me "Virtual machine 'SailfishOS Emulator' is not running!"21:31
Yanieldid you start it?21:32
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Elleo :)21:36
lbtNicd-: ubuntu 12.10 ?21:40
lbtwe think there's an issue on DNS21:40
lbttry this :
lbtbut use the correct (long) name for the emulator VM21:41
lbtElleo: .... errr...21:42
lbtWOW! :D21:42
Elleoits still a bit buggy, but seems workable :)21:43
Nicd-lbt: what name? it accepted MerSDK fine21:43
Yaniellooks promising for SailfishOS games :)21:44
Nicd-but didn't affect the problem21:44
Elleoand I really need to see about getting it to render in to a Qt widget so it can be swiped away easily21:44
Elleoit was a lot less work than the n9 port I did a while back, but a lot of that was due to quirks in the n9 opengles implementation I think21:45
lbtNicd-: yeah - but you're not having problems logging into SDK :)21:45
lbtNicd-: Use "SailfishOS Emulator"   and you need the quotes21:46
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lbtNicd-: any luck ?21:52
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Nicd-just a sec21:55
Nicd-no :(21:56
Nicd-I think I'll continue this tomorrow21:57
Nicd-it's way past bedtime already21:57
lbtNicd-: ok - ping if you need to21:57
lbtit's fairly easy to fix21:57
Nicd-thanks for the help so far, lbt :)21:57
lbtnp ... g'night21:58
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ali1234Elleo: nice. i tried to port ogre3d to n900 ages ago... never worked but i got a few bugs fixed upstream at least. nice to know it's still coming along.22:15
Elleoali1234: :)22:17
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Elleowell its probably thanks to your prior attempts that there was so little that needed fixing up when I tried :)22:18
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ali1234i don't remember what i fixed... i think it was build system stuff22:18
Elleoat least for the n9 version; this one is based on the new gles2 driver instead of the old gles one22:18
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Elleothe old gles one seemed really tailored to iOS22:19
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ali1234yeah i only just got it to run, and it never rendered anything sensible22:20
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oh8hthdoes anybody have any ideas what to do about vbox error "code VBOX_E_INVALID_OBJECT_STATE (0x80bb0007)" when starting either virtual machine?23:32
oh8hthi.e. both refuse to start with the same errors.23:32
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oh8hthfound it; something had gotten the bright idea to chown /usr to 501:501...23:41
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