Monday, 2012-08-20

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iekkunemo bug triage stating in 8 minutes @ #mer-meetings06:52
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iekkunemo bug triage stating now @ #mer-meeting07:00
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specialSage: did tp-ring *require* newer tp-glib and newer glib2 to build?08:02
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Sagespecial: moment08:06
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Sagespecial: no08:06
Sagespecial: I can push it to CE:MW:Shared if you want08:06
specialyeah, let's get it in08:07
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5919 waiting for review at
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5919 Accepted promotion request08:13
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Sagespecial: done :)08:16
specialexcellent, thanks08:16
rcg-workwork work08:17
rcg-workpun very much intended08:18
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w00tSage: where will you want lipstick pushed to in repos? (keeping your reorganisations in mind)08:24
specialthat was a lot easier than expected.08:24
specialI just received a message from phonesim, through telepathy-ring, to commhistory, and displayed in qmlmessages08:25
Sagew00t: CE:UX:MTF for now08:26
w00tSage: ok08:26
Sagew00t: CE:UX:MTF stuff will be called nemo:ux in the future08:26
Sagew00t: if it replaces meegotouch-home then it should say that btw.08:26
w00tspecial: phonesim?08:26
w00tSage: that is the intention, yes08:26
w00ti'd like to not do the replaces/obsoletes *yet* though (sometime this week..)08:27
specialw00t: fake modem for ofono, since n950 ofono isn't functional at the moment08:27
w00tas there will be further changes in packaging etc08:27
Sagew00t: sounds ok it doesn't end up to the images before you do though.08:27
w00tSage: that's absolutely fine ;)08:28
Aardspecial: oh, so your code is working with ofono 1.8 already? :)08:28
w00ti won't consider it ready before that08:28
specialAard: I can't claim credit, but tp-ring seems to work08:28
Sagew00t: still fine by me ;)08:29
AardI'm impressed. I thought we'd spend lot's of time getting tp-ring into a usable shape :)08:29
Sagespecial: well you made the one patch for tp-ring ;)08:29
w00ti'm sure that ring will be missing some things08:30
specialSMS works, voice could be a lot more complicated.08:30
specialand it's probably best if we all keep pretending that MMS doesn't exist.08:30
Aardw00t: 'missing some things' is on a somewhat different level to 'we need to get that bloody thing working'08:31
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specialhm, incoming voice works enough for commhistoryd to catch it08:34
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Aardalterego: what's the dialer status on that one?08:35
specialsomething - I don't know what - tried to launch on screen and then disappeared, ofono reports call missed08:35
specialbut it got something, which is a good sign.08:35
alteregoAard: on history?08:37
Aardalterego: yep08:37
alteregoThrough telepathy ?08:37
alteregoOfono doesn't work08:37
Aardalterego: commhistory08:37
alteregoErm, commhistory doesn't listen to ofono,08:37
alteregoSo it should work when I finish doing telepathy backend.08:37
Aardalterego: special seems to be able to simulate stuff with it :p08:37
alteregoYes, he's been using the injection scripts and I'm presuming he's been playing with SIP and tele-ring08:38
specialcommhistory works with telepathy, telepathy-ring works with ofono08:38
specialand behind ofono I have phonesim08:38
alteregoWell, it's good that it all works :)08:38
specialinjection scripts?08:38
Aardalterego: he just mentions he gets incoming calls in commhistory08:38
alteregoSo my dialer should just work wrt that.08:38
w00tSage: so I want to target Project:MTF:UX to go to CE:UX:MTF, right?08:39
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specialSage: you can mark as fixed08:42
MerbotBug 289: normal, Undecided, ---, marko.saukko, ASSIGNED, Include telepathy-ring for QML messages08:42
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sledgesgood morning Nems!08:59
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w00tSage: is it possible to set a package as conflicting? Conflicts: I guess?09:19
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Sagew00t: yes09:26
faenilgood morning :)09:26
sledgesmorning faenil09:27
faenilhey sledges :)09:27
* sledges invites faenil to #mer :)09:28
Sagew00t: yes, push to Project:MTF:UX and from there I'll push where it belongs09:28
w00tSage: mmk09:29
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* w00t really wishes our bugzilla treated state change to assigned with assignee not-taken == assign to current user09:48
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iekkuw00t, hmmm?09:50
w00tiekku: many times, I change state to assigned, forgetting to set myself as the assignee09:50
iekkuour bz doesn't have that miracle09:51
iekkubut yeah, i would like that too09:51
faenilw00t, the opposite is also true, when I set myself as the assignee it should switch to ASSIGNED if it was set to NEW or similar...09:51
iekkuor button "taking"09:51
faenilanyway, back :)09:51
w00tfaenil: not necessarily09:51
faenilsledges, joining ;)09:52
faenilw00t, well, it doesn't make sense to me...having an assignee without the bug being assigned09:52
iekkufaenil, it's "i'm going to take this, when i have time"09:52
iekkuassigned == i'm working with this09:52
faenilok :) not that clear from the outside, but ok ^^09:53
sledgestotally agree with faenil09:53
sledgespart of the bugzilla culture I guess09:53
iekkui should document that to somewehere09:54
iekkuas it's not that obvious to everyone09:54
* iekku needs a minion or two09:57
w00tjust two?09:57
w00tI keep wishing I could get some time to work on cloning technology09:57
faenilI'm currently working on 120h days ;) stay tuned!09:59
iekkuw00t, the two could then get minion etc10:00
iekkuand before you even notice there's huge amount of badgers in the irc10:00
iekkuw00t, but i really hope Aard doesn't get minions10:02
w00tiekku: but only one honey badger10:02
Aardiekku: why not? :(10:02
iekkuAard, because my minions were busy to help you, not me10:02
iekkuyou and your minions10:02
iekkuand irc coulnd't handle that amount of badgers and honeybadgers10:03
faenilStskeeps, ok got it, I have to do it with the nemo target10:03
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iekkuespecially honey badgers10:04
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faenilabout n950 run out of battery, and I left it there for a day or two10:16
faenilwhen I charged it, date was 1970, and wifi panel wasn't working anymore10:17
faenil(don't know what else isn't working)10:17
faenilusb conn isn't10:17
faenilis a reflash needed? why did that happen?10:17
faenilmaybe because I waited for less than 15mins after updating, w00t ?10:17
faenil(without for*)10:18
* w00t doesn't get what you're asking10:18
faenilremember, Sage told you you have to wait 15mins at least after updating (because of the black screen thing etc)10:18
faenilI didn't know that yet when I updated10:19
faeniland now I have date set to 1970, and wifi panel isn't working...10:19
faenilbut I don't know which is the cause10:19
faenilso I was asking you if not waiting enough minutes after getting the black screen when updating could be the cause of that mess10:19
Sagew00t: remember to mention all the fixed bugs in .changes file btw :)10:20
w00tSage: yes, yes ;)10:20
faenilI think I read someone else having the same problem (date changed and connections not working)10:21
w00tSage: ping10:30
faenilw00t, big PR to lipstick...that is going to take some time :D10:30
w00tSage: what do you think of renaming MTF UX to just "UX" in bz?10:31
Sagew00t: agreed10:33
Sageping iekku to do so10:33
w00tiekku: ^ can you do that? and also, can you create a UX / lipstick project, default CCs to me and venemo (venemo, what's your bz username and email?)10:34
Venemow00t: bz username is Venemo (how surprising)10:34
iekkuand or email, i don't need both10:34
Venemoiekku: ^10:35
Venemofaenil: yeah, I'll need a reflash too.10:35
iekkuMTF UX == UX10:35
iekkuand under UX you want lipstick ?10:35
faenilVenemo, so you had the same issue?10:36
Venemofaenil: indeed10:36
iekkuw00t, ??10:36
w00tiekku: yes10:36
faenilw00t, ^ I wasn't dreaming :D Venemo had the same issue10:36
faenilok I'll just reflash ;)10:37
w00tMTF UX rename to UX, create new project in there called 'lipstick'10:37
w00tsorry for not being explicit <310:37
Venemosrsly, MTF UX == UX? Srsly? I mean.... you know...10:37
w00tiekku: oh, hold on10:37
w00tiekku: if we do the rename, we don't need the new project10:38
iekkuVenemo, don't mind me, i'm not a coder10:38
w00tiekku: we already have UX / home10:38
iekkuw00t, ok10:38
w00tiekku: can you add venemo and me to default CC on UX / home, then?10:38
Venemow00t: won't be that confusing? since "home" is still "meegotouchhome" for the time being10:38
w00tVenemo: there are no bugs in there, and it won't be meegotouchhome for long10:38
w00tI'm planning on pushing this stuff in this week10:39
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iekkuw00t, and you as a cc also?10:39
w00tiekku: yes please10:39
iekkuw00t, Venemo, you both are cc for UX/Home10:40
Venemoiekku: thanks :)10:41
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faenilso switching to lipstick this week?10:43
w00tfaenil: that's the plan at least10:43
faenilgreat :)10:43
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Xruxahmmm, now also pvuorela in addition to Ionakka11:39
w00tFatal server error:11:39
w00tCannot move old log file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"11:39
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w00tso apparently something decided to remount read only11:40
pvuorelaXruxa: hey :)11:40
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faenilw00t, have you read comments here?
MerbotBug 260: task, Normal, ---, and.bernabei, NEW, Feature: videos to the gallery12:23
w00tI hadn't seen your reply, but, sounds good - mime type filtering sounds reasonably easy and effective12:24
faenilbut that will show also videos and pictures we can't show/play... :/12:24
faenilI don't like it that much12:24
faenilit really is a temp solution... I don't know :/12:25
w00tthere's not really any way around that, something that we don't have codecs for etc can always be shoved on the device12:27
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w00tit's the sanest option in terms of engineering, and should get us what we want with a fairly minimum downside that we can work around on the UI end12:28
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faenilok... :/12:29
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Venemowhat codecs do we have anyway?12:29
w00t"not many" is the easy answer :)12:31
w00toff the top of my head I don't know12:31
w00tbut we certainly won't have any of the commercial ones etc12:31
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Elleois the "Applications/Text" intended for console applications? Or for general applications that manipulate text in some way?12:35
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faenilw00t, great, we don't have width and height if we use rootType File... (obviously enough) so that's not doable :/12:36
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faenilit doesn't even export AlternateOS via USB...12:48
faenilwe have some terrible problems with updating process...this is not much friendly...12:48
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faenilso, back to custom model...13:08
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faenilspecial, ^13:09
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w00tSage: what's the ln trick to get connman to start on startup?13:18
Ionakka<Xruxa> hmmm, now also pvuorela in addition to Ionakka   <--- the world is small ;)13:19
Sagew00t: ln -s ../ /lib/systemd/system/
w00tSage: .. in what context?13:19
Sagew00t: dude, it is a full cmdline :D13:23
w00tSage: .. is a relative path..13:24
Elleow00t: I think it'll make a relative symlink though13:24
Sagew00t: that creates /lib/systemd/system/ that points to ../network.target13:24
Elleoso you'll end up with /lib/systemd/system/ pointing to /lib/systemd/system/network.target13:24
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SageElleo: thx :)13:25
w00tah, true13:25
ElleoI get caught out by accidentally doing that all the time13:25
* w00t wonders if this is the last time everything breaks when he tries to upgrade an image13:25
w00tthough this time it was partly my fault13:25
Elleowhen I actually meant to create a symlink with an absolute but was too lazy to type it all out13:25
Elleoabsolute path*13:26
w00tnow to figure out why my orientation sensor is busted13:26
Elleois there some way of forcing nemo to reboot when in a semi-crashed state besides taking the battery out on an n900?13:28
SageElleo: if usb works or network is connected with that :)13:29
Sagessh in that is13:29
Elleoyeah, don't have a usb cable handy and my wifi connection constantly drops out in nemo13:30
Elleoguess I'll just yank the battery13:30
Sagewho is the git wizard here who can tell me why I can't do git merge here: ?13:30
w00tSage: git branch -a says what?13:31
Elleojust getting a bit tired of constantly resetting the date ;)13:31
Sagew00t: thx ;)13:31
Sageit is the simple things that help ;)13:31
Sageor wake up your brain13:31
abustanySage: because your local branch is called origin/lbt-request13:32
abustanywhich is wrong13:32
abustanyI mean, then "origin/lbt-request" is ambiguous between the local and remote branch13:32
Sagegit merge remotes/origin/lbt_request13:32
Sageabustany: thx for that info as well13:33
abustanynp :)13:33
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faenilhey veskuh! :) welcome :)13:40
veskuhhi faenil, how is it going? :)13:40
faenilgood, good :) I'm currently working on qmlgallery :)13:41
faenilwhat about you? like the new job?13:41
veskuhNice, had long vacation and now starting to take a look at what I need to do.13:41
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faeniloh I see :) great :)13:42
faenilhi fw19013:42
fw190I ave a problem with connecting to wlan on latest nemomobile13:42
fw190usualy you post the secret pasword and hit the connect button13:43
fw190but ere there are two fields13:43
fw190any hints what I do wrong?13:43
fw190I have tried to put the pasword in both13:43
fw190but no luck13:43
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Stskeepso/ veskuh13:47
veskuhhello Stskeeps13:47
Stskeepswelcome back :)13:48
veskuhthanks :-) I've been following the progress a bit while being gone, but now will be more active again.13:48
w00tveskuh: \o/13:49
faenilyey \o/13:50
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w00tveskuh: lots been going on lately13:50
w00twe still lack a helium maintainer *evilgrin*13:51
veskuhw00t: :-)13:51
crevetorHave you guys ever seen this : a signal from a class is connected to a slot of another class bu when the class emits the signal the slot isn't called13:52
veskuhI tried the release last week on VM looked cool. Will be flashing soon to my n950 to see it properly.13:52
w00tcrevetor: checked that connect() is returning true?13:52
crevetorw00t: haven't tried that, will check that tonight13:53
crevetorw00t: thanks13:53
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sledgesveskuh, I've been searching for an app like your VeskuMaps for months! :) Pity it was not on OVI, so I had a unfortune to try out other apps like CloudGPS... :) Well done!! Any idea how to calibrate the compass? ;)14:02
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veskuhsledges: thanks, I originally intended to put it to Ovi, put had some problems and then lost a bit of motivation when I heard about the latest nokia layoffs. No idea about compass calibration, but I think I've read something about it, I'll put a bug so I'll remember to check if something can be done about it.14:05
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5931 Rejected promotion request14:10
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sledgesveskuh, by the tests of it the compass is also influenced by GPS updates, which are a bit dodgy here inside the office building; I'll keep you up to date, and keep up good work14:13
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* sledges used his backup Android phone just for google maps app, now it can go to the bin :D14:21
faenilsettings panel is still MTF right?14:25
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w00tanyone got time to try a package?14:30
w00tfaenil: yes14:30
fralscompass is calibrated on n9 by moving the device in a 8 pattern by only moving your wrist ;D14:31
faenilw00t, I can try, if that's ok to you :) don't know if I know all steps required14:31
faenilw00t, because the settings panel seems to have some problems with list scrolling, slow response to finger input14:31
w00tzypper ar home:w00t:branches:Project:MTF:UX, rpm -e meegotouch-home, zypper in lipstick lipstick-example-home, killall uxlaunch, and pray14:32
Xruxasmall step for a man, big step for the community :)14:33
faenilrebooting n950 ;)14:34
faenilzypper ar returns the "usage" help14:35
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* faenil likes this experiment :D looking forward to seeing the result :D14:36
w00tyou need to wget the .repo file, then 'zypper ar /path/to/file'14:36
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faenilfingers crossed14:47
faenilwhat is the expected result?14:48
w00tdid both packages install properly?14:50
faenilyes, only got File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Branch project for package meegotouch-compositor-gestures (Project_MTF_MW_armv7hl)' is unsigned, continue? [yes/no]14:51
faenilwhich is supposed to happen, I guess14:52
faenilI've already installed and it's here ;)14:52
faenilwhat was the expected result?14:52
faenillipstick is running atm \o/14:52
w00tthat's the expected result14:54
faenilyey :) np :)14:54
* w00t files bugs to annoy iekku14:55
faeniluseless feedback: I don't like the current scrolling parameters :)14:55
w00tfaenil: it's not the final UX we'll use, venemo will work on pushing that to git tonight14:55
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faeniloh ok :)14:57
faenilw00t, hasn't Venemo already pushed it this morning? or is that older?14:57
w00tthat was changes to lipstick itself, not the UI we'll use14:57
w00tthe UI you're looking at is the "example" one14:57
faeniloh I see :) well, looking forward to getting the rest \o/ :D14:58
faenilI like it :)14:59
faenileven though I had already seen your previous videos, so I had an idea of it already :)14:59
crevetorw00t: I seem to recall that you tweeted that you had fixed the battery indicator in systemui a while back ? Was it a dream ?15:02
w00tcrevetor: not a dream, but not yet pushed15:02
sledgesexciting lipstick times \o/15:02
w00tI still have a TODO item to get back to that, but I've had a busy few weeks15:02
crevetorw00t: ah ok15:03
crevetorw00t: might I ask what the problem was, I had a quick glance this week end15:03
w00tcrevetor: no specialised battery plugin on n9/n950, due to lack of open libbmeipc15:04
w00tcrevetor: so it was using the upower one (which obviously doesn't work)15:04
crevetorSo you coded one ?15:04
* faenil goes back to qmlgallery15:04
iekkuw00t, :)15:05
w00tcrevetor: I reverse-engineered enough parts of BME to get the existing harmattan plugin to sort-of-work15:05
iekkuw00t, i'm not annoyed if one files bug, i'm annoyed if one doesn't file when it's needed15:05
w00tiekku: ;-)15:05
faeniliekku, :D15:06
iekkuand also if quality of bug is poor makes me annoyed..15:08
sledges"any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature" ;)15:09
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veskuhpert on n950 has definitely improved from the last time I tried. And also no tearing makes me very happy :)15:23
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veskuhveskuh: I meant performance..15:24
faeniloh ok :D15:24
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Stskeepsveskuh: it was really really stupid cause15:24
sledgesno tearing is most of the times a happy case15:25
Stskeepsveskuh: turns out libmtf conf had 854x instead of 850x, cos of you know, old n95015:25
faenilStskeeps, 856 instead of 854? :)15:25
Stskeepscausing it not being able to flip frames to the screen15:25
veskuhStskeeps: Argh. Its always the little things..15:25
Stskeepsyes, that15:25
Stskeepsveskuh: i wasted many EUR on that issue :P15:26
veskuhStskeeps: Yep, but thats just the way it goes.15:26
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faenildoes anyone know what's needed in a c++ model to make QML use the get() function on it?15:52
faenilI was tracking down the get function in the sources15:52
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faeniland I reached FlatNodeObjectData::value15:53
faenilwhich is not implemented in FlatNoteObjectData class, so it must be in QDeclarativeScriptClass::Object15:54
faenilbut I think that's too down in the hierarchy...15:54
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sledgesfaenil: #harmattan seem to be friendly there :)15:56
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sledgesor even #qt15:56
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sledgesbut had less success with that15:56
sledgesdetermination is the win factor15:57
faenil! :D15:57
Merbotfaenil: Error: ":D" is not a valid command.15:57
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faenilhey jukkaeklund15:57
jukkaeklundwhats up?15:58
faenilveskuh joined today :)15:58
faenilyes :)15:59
veskuhjukkaeklund: back after awhile yep15:59
jukkaeklundnice, welcome back15:59
veskuhveskuh: and trying out nemo on n95015:59
veskuhjukkaeklund: thanks, will be hanging out here more also in future15:59
jukkaeklundsounds good16:00
w00tit's where all the cool people are16:00
veskuhw00t: thats the reason yes :)16:00
faenilveskuh, do you have an answer to my qml question my any chance?16:01
veskuhfaenil: No16:02
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faenilok thanks ;)16:02
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ZogG_laptopStskeeps: have a minute?16:52
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w00tfaenil: if you want to upgrade lipstick, you'll need to zypper ref, rpm -e lipstick-example-home, zypper up lipstick, zypper in lipstick-example-home18:28
* iekku isn't nerd enough18:29
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iekkueverytime i read 'lipstick' i start to wonder what color it is18:29
w00tiekku: right now, it's blue :)18:29
iekkuhow cool (and punk) is that!!!18:29
faenilw00t, is that just an info or you've updated it? :D18:30
w00tfaenil: no functional changes18:30
w00tjust repo/package splitting18:30
faenilok ;)18:30
faenilthanks, I'll do it right now18:30
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w00tso that's what we'll have soonish18:32
faenilI love this
w00ti'm sure i've seen problems similar to that one18:49
faenilw00t, don't be cruel ! :D18:50
w00tthat btw is one of QML's weak points I think18:50
w00tthat shadowing is a bit too easy and it's never completely obvious what wins in those situations18:51
faenilw00t, about the comment ;)18:51
w00twhich one?18:51
faenilthe one about videos :D18:51
faenilanyway, nevermind ;)18:51
w00tit wasn't intended to be cruel18:52
faenilw00t, yeah I know, just jk, since John had already said the same :)18:52
w00tI just really don't like to see wheel reinvention unless there is really no other way, basically18:53
faenilw00t, you think I like it? I hate that :D18:53
w00tso that was my point: let's try the easy options first, then the hard options (like patching DGM) if we absolutely must18:53
w00tbut that should be our absolute last option18:54
faenilpoint taken ;)18:54
faenil(though I already have photos and videos models running, with basic features :D)18:54
w00tyes, I don't doubt it's possible18:54
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faenilyeah, I know what you mean ;)18:55
faenilnot worth it :)18:55
w00tbut that's code that hasn't shipped in products, so hasn't had the bugs ironed out - and once we start to want more complex features, then we need to keep dropping more time into that code to create them18:55
w00tso if we can avoid it, we save ourselves those problems18:55
specialfiltering, for example, would be difficult. DocumentGalleryModel has a whole system for controlling filters via QML.18:55
* w00t looks at status bars and window pixmaps18:56
faenilspecial, QSortFilterProxyModel could be a way to do that, and some c++18:56
faenilbut anyway, discussion closed, let's get working ;)18:56
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faenilw00t, updated lipstick ;)19:07
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* w00t needs a whiteboard19:13
faenilw00t, strange a guy like doesn't already have one19:17
w00tI tried to buy one on the weekend, but it sucked so much I took it back19:17
w00tinstead I am currently scribbling on cardboard from moving with hilighter.19:18
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faenilw00t, so, I am updating via ssh19:31
faenilconnman installing, black screen, ssh stuck19:32
faeniljust wait for 15 mins and then force shutdown?19:32
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w00tfaenil: i hope you started the update in 'screen'19:54
faenilnope, forgot it :/ used to do it on device19:55
faenilreflash needed? :P19:55
faenilwifi says connman unavailable19:57
faenilw00t, ^20:00
specialknown bug, not a problem20:01
w00tsystemctl restart connman.service20:01
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faenilw00t, oh ok only need to restart it20:01
w00tand also ln -s ../ /lib/systemd/system/
specialwas just looking for that command20:01
faenilafter I do that? is the update completed? or do I have to restart it?20:02
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5941 waiting for review at
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5941 Rejected promotion request20:16
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* w00t hums and runs another build20:24
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5944 waiting for review at
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sledgesgood evening21:05
sledgesafter installing dual boot Nemo on N9, the original Harmattan forgot all the passwords and doesn't seem to be keen on remembering them again :) And I got the 3x3 apps screen view too (instead of 2x2) without asking :)21:06
sledgesthat N9's message about "you are breaking my warranty" is definitelly taking its tall, even when all I did was only shrinking MyDocs partition..21:07
specialopen mode21:07
sledgeshow would that solve/explain the things happened, special ?21:08
specialI'm not an expert, but from what I understand, aegis (the secure storage on harmattan) won't work in open mode21:09
specialwhich happens because the bootloader was changed21:09
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sledgesok, but I think bootloader is intact, as all I use is flasher to put volatile moslo on21:11
sledgesin order to install and subsequently run Nemo21:11
specialwell, whatever causes the warranty warning to appear is also what causes aegis to not work21:12
sledgeseven when warranty is not showing any more after rebooted back ti Harmattan and other following reboots?21:12
sledgesbootloader has some "tinkered with" bit :)21:13
specialdon't know21:13
sledgeswill ask around on #n9; thanks for a sensible pointer special21:20
befordsledges: you need to "reset" the aegis storage in order to be able to save your accout passwords again, since you are using openmode now,  try asking on #harmattan21:41
faenilis there a known supported video format on nemomobile?21:50
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faenilbetter if I can know all of them21:50
specialfaenil: highly variable.21:51
specialwhy do you need to know?21:51
faenilto test videos :P21:51
specialwell, whatever the installed gstreamer plugins support21:52
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faeniland how can  I check that :)21:54
faenilI mean, currently installed plugins21:54
specialpick something like mjpeg-in-AVI (common from digital cameras) or mpeg2 in AVI21:59
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faenilwhat about 3gp?22:00
specialwhy not try? :p22:00
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faenilwell, I'm still not sure if QML video element will work, I'd like to avoid stacking up additional problems :D22:01
specialit should be pretty clear if codec issues are the problem22:02
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qwazixafter zypper up yesterday, meego-terminal stayed at stopping uxlaunch screen for about 12 hours, and in the morning when I restarted, I'm stuck at the splash screen. Is there a known way to boot or shall I wipe AltOS and start again untarring the image22:49
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