Tuesday, 2012-08-21

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iekkumorning03:22
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5956 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/595604:24
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Ionakkasledges: morning \o/06:06
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crevetorHey guys, I have a C++ question (related to a nemo bug)15:43
crevetorI have this inside namespace ResourcePolicy {} : void resourcesBecameAvailable(const QList<ResourcePolicy::ResourceType> &availableResources);15:43
crevetordoes it translate to void resourcesBecameAvailable(const QList<ResourcePolicy::ResourcePolicy::ResourceType> &availableResources);15:44
crevetor?15:44
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blizzowIs there a list of what works on the N900 port of nemo?15:50
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5982 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/598215:51
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5981 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/598115:51
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Sageblizzow: no, but we should probably create a stoplight page to nemo wiki with different hw adaptations15:53
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faenil"The Video item is only visible when the hasVideo property is true and the video is playing."15:56
faeniltruth is, QML thinks hasVideo is false, but the video plays15:56
faenilSage, when are we switching to Qt5 in Nemo?15:57
blizzowSage: I'm just looking for the basic features...email, SMS, wifi, and camera.16:00
phdeswerSage, submitted new requests with the corrections as requested yesterday16:03
phdeswerSage, And you should just have waited as the new usb-moded actually has the glib build fix too (was actually in the changes of yesterdays submit)16:03
sledgesSage can I highlight your name one more tome?16:04
faenilare apps hw accelerated by default on Nemo? or do I have to specify a QGLWidget as viewport?16:13
sledgesI remember nothing was accelerated back in March experimenting with Nemo on imx5316:25
sledgesexcept QmlComponentsGallery (+Extras)16:25
sledgesand some apps which claimed to be accelerated (`qmlviewer -opengl`) had a broken gles implementation16:25
sledgesand would just crash16:25
sledgeshope things've gotten better since then :)16:26
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faenilis there any chance we can bring in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/qt-gstreamer/16:41
faenil?16:41
faenilI feel alone this afternoon... :P16:41
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faenilwhat has everyone gone :P am I missing an event or something? :D16:44
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Sagefaenil: When ever people start using it in apps I guess. We probably move to qt5 gradually. However probably waiting before qt5 announced, but well nothing has been decided.16:46
faenilI see, so it will take some months16:46
Sageblizzow: bugzilla and latest snapshot should give quite good overview what works and what is missing.16:46
faenilSage, I think we need that library to make our life a tiny bit easier with the gallery...since QML Video is a MESS!16:47
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faenil:(16:47
Sagephdeswer: ok, will review those again. Sry for the usb-moded fix. Planned of doing a -next snapshot soon and didn't know when you planned of fixing things :)16:47
Sagesledges: sure why not :)16:47
phdeswerSage, no worries. As long as things get fixed :p16:49
blizzowI went through the install anyway.  My N900 is only a backup phone now.  Nemo looks nice.  Now I'm trying to figure out what packages I should install.16:50
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blizzowTrying to figure out how to exit or get back to the home screen at any time.  I got kind of stuck in the sms messaging window.16:51
blizzow:)16:52
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alteregoflick from the sides of the screen inwards.16:55
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alteregowtf, now mkfs is complaining that a partition is mounted when it's not O_o17:07
* alterego mumbles something about ubuntu17:08
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faenilSage, were you talking about "could not read symbols: Bad value" today?17:31
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alteregoSage: what package has ofono.rules in? Because it isn't present...17:36
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alteregoHmm17:45
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Sagealterego: iirc latest ofono shouldn't need that file as those are recognized automatically or something. might not be correct on isi modems though.18:10
alteregoSage: seems that is correct ;)18:11
alteregoAs it only works when that file is present.18:11
Sageah, nice :)18:11
Sageofono 1.8 that is?18:11
alteregoYes18:11
alteregoBut it doesn't get started by systemd, as I mentioned in #mer18:11
Sagealterego: well that is the network problem that exist in latest mer18:12
Sagealterego: fix already in -next18:12
alteregoAnd I was wondering what the nature of the issue was with connman + systemd18:12
Sagealterego: well ofono had same problem than connman.18:13
Sagealterego: ln -s ../network.target /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/network.target18:13
alteregoYay \o/ :)18:13
Sagethat should fix ofono and connman both18:13
alteregoThanks :)18:13
Sagealterego: what is the content of the ofono.rules file you have btw?18:13
alteregohttp://lists.ofono.org/pipermail/ofono/2011-December/012111.html18:14
alteregoWait, wrong link18:14
alteregohttp://git.kernel.org/?p=network/ofono/ofono.git;a=blob_plain;f=plugins/ofono.rules;h=3ed9f1615414ba0afe139b5b6b3a8989db84389c;hb=HEAD18:14
alteregoWhere I replaced n900 with n95018:14
Sageah, k18:15
alteregoA fair bit of that file may be redundant for our use cases.18:16
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Sagealterego: yes, need to check the history of that file18:16
alteregoI'd recommend trimming it down and making an n900 one, then sticking them in n950-configs and n900-configs18:16
alteregoWould be easier than having different ofono packages ;)18:17
Sagealterego: well, yes and no.18:17
alteregoYay, calls working with ofono 1.8! :D18:19
Stskeeps\o/18:19
specialyay18:20
alteregoAnd all it took was that .rules file and the multi-user.target symlink :)18:20
faenil\o/18:20
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alteregoOoo, ohm volume works in new image too :D18:21
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alteregoWow, this is actually really awesome :D18:22
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5966 Rejected promotion request18:22
alteregoohmd fix made a _lot_ of stuff work properly :)18:22
alteregoNo if only I could figure out why I can't build against TelepathyQt4 in scratchbox218:25
* alterego looks at Stskeeps 18:25
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alterego~Now ..18:25
* Sage is feeling like a ping pong ball atm. when playing with obs18:29
alteregoYeah, why doesn't build-uid ever work for me18:29
alteregoWhy is sb2 not letting stuff compile against headers that are there18:29
Stskeepsalterego: how did you install them?18:30
* alterego thinks of other stuff to moan.18:30
alteregoStskeeps: sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper in blak18:30
alterego~blah, I'm not racist.18:30
Stskeepssledges: ok, and sb2 -m sdk-build when 'make'?18:31
Stskeepswhat location is your sources in?18:31
alteregoStskeeps: nope18:31
alteregoang on18:31
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project:MTF:MW <- does that redirect to somewhere odd on you guys?18:31
SageI'm getting builbuild.pub.meego.com18:32
Sageor is it just my browser gone mad18:32
alteregoStskeeps: still same error18:32
StskeepsSage: browser gone mad, or you18:32
Stskeepsalterego: what location..18:33
alterego~/Projects/voicecall/voicecall18:33
Stskeepsok, and your $HOME is where?18:33
alterego/home/tswindell18:33
alteregoIt works compiling against all the other bloody libs :/.18:34
alteregoIt's just telepathy-qt418:34
Stskeepsokay, add -d option?18:34
Stskeepsto sb2 call18:34
alteregohttp://pastie.org/private/tvpryk5ze9ecchxwvpilg18:35
alteregoWhy would it only break for one lib :/18:36
Sage!"?%"!? linkpac -f doesn't override the _link file pah18:37
MerbotSage: Error: "?%" is not a valid command.18:37
alteregololololololol18:37
alterego@ Merbot :)18:37
w00tohmd got fixed? what was wrong with it?18:37
alteregoSeveral things18:38
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5998 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/599818:38
Sage\o/ finally CE:MW:MTF is empty18:38
alterego\o/18:39
alteregoAh, that means I can implement the resource policy stuff.18:39
alteregoMaybe next iter ..18:39
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alteregoStskeeps: http://pastie.org/private/tvpryk5ze9ecchxwvpilg18:39
Stskeepsok, and do what it says?18:39
* alterego waits patiently for chinese.18:39
Stskeepsor er,18:40
Stskeepssend me the .log18:40
w00twhere's TelepathyQt? /usr/include?18:40
alterego/usr/include/telepathy-1.0/TelepathyQt18:41
* w00t would try stick strace in and figure out what it's doing, without having any better idea of diagnostics..18:43
alteregoStskeeps: you have mail (gmail)18:43
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alteregoStskeeps: lin 2192718:46
alterego~line18:46
alteregoIt's mapped wrong ..18:46
alteregoMaybe, I dunno, it all looks a bit insane to me ..18:48
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* alterego eats chinese and twiddles thumbs18:57
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5998 Accepted promotion request18:58
Sagespecial: your libcommhistory patch is finally in. It got middle of ping pong game between me and obs :)18:59
Stskeepsalterego: tell me how you set up your sb2 target18:59
alteregoStskeeps: followed the instructions herE: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB218:59
alteregoBut with updated image.18:59
Stskeepsalterego: run 'sb2-init' for m18:59
Stskeepse18:59
alteregoJust sb2-init ?19:00
alteregosb2-init -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / nemo-sdk-armv7hl /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc )19:00
alteregoIs that the line you're looking for?19:00
specialSage: thanks19:00
specialSage: how soon do you need working SMS?19:01
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Stskeepsalterego: that looks correct..19:03
alteregouh oh ...19:03
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alteregoOh wait, that is right19:03
alteregoI didn't do -d19:04
alteregobut I set that up afterwards ..19:04
* alterego sighs19:04
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Sagespecial: you sure you want to ask it like that? ;)19:08
specialhaha19:08
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w00tspecial: yesterday19:17
w00t(guess who wants to use nemo on their n9?)19:17
faenil^19:17
specialwell19:17
specialgood luck. :p19:17
w00tonce I have working SMS and phonecalls, I will be starting19:17
specialSMS can be working really soon, but it won't work very well until commhistory is used19:18
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specialand there's some notification work that has to be done after that19:18
w00tSage: why am I seeing a constant 3% CPU use by systemd-journal after running zypper up recently?19:18
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Stskeepsw00t: 'journalctl'19:19
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w00tah, delightful19:19
w00tpulseaudio is going spastic19:19
StskeepsHSI ?19:20
w00tJan 01 02:08:08 localhost pulseaudio[408]: cmtspeech-connection.c: closing and reopening cmtspeech device19:20
w00tJan 01 02:08:08 localhost pulseaudio[408]: libcmtspeechdata: nokiamodem_backend: unable to open device /dev/cmt_speech ('No such device').19:20
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w00twe've seen thato ne before19:21
w00tI forget why, and what the cause was19:21
specialw00t: run dmesg19:21
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w00tHSI it is19:24
w00tdo we know what's up with that, then?19:24
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w00tStskeeps: did you know a solution for that HSI problem? my battery will thank you :P20:03
alteregow00t: ifconfig phonet0 up20:05
w00twho's responsible for doing that, then? do we have a bug filed?20:06
alteregoNot sure20:06
alteregoAnd I don't know why phonet0 isn't being bought up on start.20:06
alteregoBut we do have a guy looking in to it I believe.20:06
Venemohey guys :)20:07
specialalterego: will we have commhistory from QML in the next ~week?20:08
phdesweralterego, is somebody using that phonet0 interface?20:10
w00tVenemo: hi20:11
SageI would think that ofono should be responsible of bringing phonet0 up20:11
Venemohey w00t :)20:12
w00tVenemo: any progress on homescreen? i'd like to hit the button to switch defaults ASAP :)20:12
phdeswerSage, phonet is mostly a Nokia specific thing20:12
w00tif you're too busy, that's fine, we can switch to lipstick-example-home for now20:12
w00tphdeswer: this is on an n95020:12
w00tso, it being nokia specific kinda makes sense :)20:12
Venemow00t: no way. I'll have something for you tomorrow :)20:13
w00tVenemo: ok, i'm just impatient ;-)20:13
alteregophdeswer: phonet is used for communicate with the cellmo, it's pretty essential ;)20:13
alteregoHence why cmtspeech barfs when it can't access it and modem doesn't come on line.20:13
Venemow00t: I got a flu, so that's why I've been so silent in the past few days20:13
alteregoI imagine when we get modem coming online automatically with onfono 1.8 it'll bring phonet up too.20:14
w00tVenemo: by the way, once I got back into internals as I have been the past few days, I'm really not liking WindowInfo <-> SwitcherModel <-> WindowPixmapItem interaction, so I think I'm going to be prototyping some work to make that feel a little more normal/obvious20:14
alteregospecial: I'll push declarative commhistory plugin before the weekend.20:15
Venemow00t: yeah, I looked on that myself after reimplementing LauncherModel and LauncherItem20:15
Venemow00t: I didn't like it either, but couldn't come up with an obvious solution.20:15
phdesweralterego, afaik the phonet0 was coming from g_nokia. But I could be mistaken.20:15
alteregow00t: what are your opinions on having that in nemo-qml-plugins?20:15
alteregophdeswer: it may well do, but ofono relies on it for N9(XX) cellmo20:16
w00talterego: shove a pull request up and we can talk about it, but probably fine :-)20:16
Stskeepsphdeswer: i think it shares it a bit, it can forward it to usb side too20:16
specialmm, I'm not sure it belongs in nemo-qml-plugins20:16
alteregow00t: it will pull in a dep to libcommhistory20:16
alteregospecial: it's a qml plugin, for nemo :P20:16
Venemow00t: one possible way to do it is having our own image provider20:16
w00tVenemo: image providers don't really work20:16
Venemow00t: why not?20:17
w00tor well, I suppose it would since we keep the serial exposed20:17
alteregoStskeeps: did you have any more thoughts on why telepathy includes aren't working for me?20:17
w00tsource: "image://windowpixmap/" + model.id + "/" + model.some_name_for_serial; or something20:17
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alteregoStskeeps: I might try making a clean sb2 target20:17
Stskeepsalterego: do a clean one20:18
phdesweralterego, seems on the N9 it comes from somewhere else. So you're probably right20:18
w00tthat might work20:18
w00tif we do that, then we can make WindowInfo the canonical place to update all attributes about a window (including the pixmap)20:18
Venemow00t: I was thinking like this: switcherpixmapitem could expose a property called imageurl, which then could be like, lipstickwindowpixmap://23542352 (where the number is the win id)20:18
w00tVenemo: not good enough20:19
w00twindow pixmaps aren't static images20:19
w00tand there's no way to force-reload an Image20:19
Venemoindeed20:19
specialhow often do you expect updates?20:19
w00tthat's why the serial trick exists, horrid as it is20:19
w00tspecial: as often as the window updates20:19
specialyou don't want to try updating an image from a QDIP at 60fps.20:19
w00tyou won't see 60fps updates in the switcher20:20
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specialnor at 30fps20:20
w00tI'm reasonably sure that Qt throttles drawing pretty drastically there20:20
w00tanyway20:20
w00twe'll see20:20
Venemow00t: anyway, I couldn't come up with a sane architecture for that, so decided to leave it as it is20:20
w00tI'll invest some time into this tomorrow and see how it looks20:20
w00tI can't leave it as-is now because I need to change some assumptions that go on to fix one of our bugs20:21
Venemow00t, special: one possible way to optimize it is only drawing them when the desktop is actually visible20:21
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w00thttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 really annoys the crap out of me btw20:21
MerbotBug 338: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, LauncherItem icon lookups are really really slow, especially when the icon is not found20:21
specialthere is a lot of image/pixmap copying and texture uploads involved in QDIP20:22
Venemow00t: I didn't even notice that20:22
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Venemow00t: I did notice your todo comment on the icon logic, but perf seemed reasonably okay for me20:22
w00tthey're ok until they don't exist20:22
w00tin which case it goes wild and searches shitloads of directories until it finally decides that it doesn't exist20:23
w00tbasically, the logic we have there could way, way be improved20:23
VenemoI thought about putting a generic "no icon" icon in there for icons that are not found20:23
w00twaste of time, I think20:24
w00talso means that it can't be handled on the UI end, if someone wanted to e.g. omit entries without icons, or display them differently20:25
Venemoyeah.20:25
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Venemoquestion: do you want me to work on a personal clone of our things and keep filing merge requests or I should just push to the repo now?20:26
Venemow00t: ^20:27
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alteregoVenemo: I'd keep doing MRs forces you to keep a decent log of changes ;)20:28
alteregoAnd just push feature/fixes20:28
VenemoMR=?20:28
alteregopull request20:28
alteregoMR = merge request, gitorious lingo for the same thing ;)20:28
Venemoah20:29
VenemoI keep a decent log of changes, all the time anyway20:29
alteregoThat's good.20:29
w00tfor larger stuff, pull requests is good, smaller stuff, just do it - obviously, please do talk about things too, as wading through a huge changeset like the last one wasn't very fun :-p20:29
alteregolol20:29
Venemow00t: you can't blame me - I told you what I was going to do :P20:29
w00tyes, but please submit it in smaller chunks20:29
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SageWhat do people think about dropping the "handset" from the nemo image names. Currently images are nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900 should we just name them nemo-armv7hl-n900?20:31
w00tsounds fine to me, i'd still quite like to run it on tablets ;)20:33
Venemow00t: sorry for that20:35
w00tVenemo: no need to apologise20:36
w00tyou did good work20:36
w00tit's just a note for making collaboration easier :)20:36
Venemosure20:36
alteregoSage: sounds fine.20:36
faenilVenemo, I only put 6 commits in the PR and I was told the same :D20:37
faenilso smaller :)20:37
alteregoStskeeps: Cant open /var/run/zypp.pid in mode w20:37
Venemofaenil: yeah, this way dozens of commits20:37
alteregoStskeeps: when attempting to do sb2 zypper ref :/20:37
Venemofaenil: yeah, this was dozens of commits20:37
Venemohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/528158_514827085209696_964301943_n.jpg LOL20:39
faenilVenemo, yeah I received the email when you sent the PR :)20:41
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VenemoI get lots of spam from github too20:45
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w00t(sorry!)20:50
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Venemohehe, np :)20:52
Venemow00t: have you managed to package the lib + the plugin?20:55
w00tVenemo: yes, and both are in nemo now20:55
Venemow00t: awesome. so I can just get them with zypper?20:56
w00tshould work, zypper ref, rpm -e meegotouch-home, zypper in lipstick-example-home20:56
faenilmm I think wifi on my nemo is stuck, can't connect to wifi network20:58
faeniland disabling wifi doesn't make the network disappear20:58
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faenilI click on the network and nothing happens20:58
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Venemow00t: by the way, how long are we planning to stick to the mtf-based settings app?20:59
specialVenemo: sounds like you just signed up to rewrite it21:00
Venemo:D21:00
w00tno immediate plans to replace that as it mostly functions, and we're missing a lot of other stuff21:00
w00tmid-long term, definitely, it'll go21:00
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faenilmmm so, if I disable wifi other networks disappear, my network doesn't disappear21:02
faeniland I can't click on it21:02
faenileven when wifi is enabled21:03
Venemow00t: in bugzilla, UX/Home is now ours, right?21:03
w00tVenemo: yes21:03
Venemow00t: I just found my todo notes. prepare to get flooded21:04
w00tfaenil: restart connman? but sounds odd, probably worth a bug21:04
w00tVenemo: go nuts21:04
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Venemow00t: seems that you already found the other things I wanted to file21:07
faenilw00t, restarting connman fixed it, probably a bug21:07
w00tVenemo: ;)21:07
Venemook, I need to install the Mer SDK here21:09
Venemothen reflash my N95021:09
faenil:)21:10
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5981 Rejected promotion request21:25
Venemow00t: what is the process to include something new in Nemo?21:26
faenilw00t, do you know George Kiagiadakis by any chance?21:27
w00tVenemo: we don't have much formal process.. discuss it a bit, and submit it21:27
w00tfaenil: not really, no21:27
Venemow00t: I think my little puzzle game could add a bit of fun to the default Nemo install21:27
w00tisn't it already there?21:27
faenilw00t, he works in Collabora and is the man behind qtgstreamer, the official qt wrapper for qtgstreamer21:28
faenilthanks anyway ;)21:28
Venemonot that I'm aware of.21:28
faenilgstreamer*21:28
* w00t has PuzzleMaster on nemo21:28
faenilI have it too21:28
Venemohow did you get it? :O21:28
Venemoand what version?21:28
faenilit was there21:28
w00tno idea, I guess someone thought it was a good idea ;-)21:28
Venemoawesome21:28
w00t2.0.221:28
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5982 Rejected promotion request21:29
Venemoso someone behind my back threw it there :) that's actually very nice of them :)21:29
SageStskeeps: Uploading images to http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120816.0.2.NEMO.2012-08-21.1/images/21:31
Venemoany idea who did it? :P21:31
faenilI wanted to try qtgstreamer for the videos in gallery, but I couldn't get it to compile the qmlplayer example...I get undefined reference following the instructions, and can't find which library is missing21:31
Venemomaybe you just need to add something to the linker command line21:32
faenilthough I managed to build qtgstreamer withous issues (I actually had to add -fPIC to CXX_FLAGS)21:32
faenilVenemo, eh :P21:32
faenilVenemo, problem is which one?21:32
Venemofaenil: how sould i know21:33
faenilyou should not :)21:33
Venemo:P21:33
faenilit has to do with glib, but it is already linked21:33
w00tSage: ooh, release time? :p21:34
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Venemojust in time21:34
faenilwow, 2 weeks gone already21:34
VenemoI haven't reflashed yet :P21:34
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VenemoSage: where are the N950 images?21:37
alteregoVenemo: I was playing it last night, it's come a long way since I was helping you :D21:38
Venemoalterego: indeed it has :)21:38
alteregoI really like it, really polished and everything you did really well.21:38
Venemothanks, nice to hear that :)21:38
Sagew00t: that is just testing images for next mer release. So might be quite badly broken as well21:39
Venemoalterego: I have tons of effort in making the logic behind the multitouch handling feel natural21:39
Sagew00t: but after the next mer release is done new snapshot will be made yes21:39
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Venemoalterego: have you had any success with your Qt Creator integration efforts?21:44
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alteregoVenemo: sure, got it all working21:46
Venemoalterego: srsly? :)21:46
alteregoVenemo: need to update the wiki page though21:46
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alteregoVenemo: yup, build->deploy->run all work now :)21:47
alteregoThe run is a bit of a cludge, but working on making that nicer.21:47
Venemoalterego: please update the wiki21:47
alteregoAlso looking at implementing a automated script that you can just run, rather than have all that manual project config steps21:48
Venemoalterego, does it work with custom process steps?21:49
alteregoBasically it's all alternative executables for the default steps21:49
Venemobut does it still need configuring in a per-project manner?21:50
alteregoyes21:51
Venemo:(21:51
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alteregoWhich is why I need to write the automation script until we get a nice shiny Qt Creator plugin21:51
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VenemoI see22:00
Venemobtw, shouldn't we change the text in the boot loader?22:01
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Venemohm. nemo is incredibly slow after reflash. is that normal?22:07
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alteregoVenemo: it is for the first few minutes yeah22:07
Venemohm.22:07
Venemopatience is a virtue22:07
faenilyes22:08
faeniltracker, Venemo22:08
faenilindexing22:08
Venemowhat is there for it to index?22:08
* faenil sings "sad but true"22:08
VenemoI mean, wtf.22:08
alteregoThe entire filesystem :)22:08
Venemocouldn't we make that indexing thing happen at the time when the image is built?22:09
Venemothat would improve first impression on Nemo, a lot22:09
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alteregoWe could, it's never really bothered me.22:10
Venemoanyone who is unaware of this, could flash nemo on a device and then rate nemo as "slow crap" because of this.22:11
alteregoWell, they haven't yet :P22:12
VenemoI mean, not even the lock screen is displaying properly22:12
Venemonor anything else22:12
Venemomeh22:12
faenilalterego, actually all the people I talked to have22:13
faenilall reported nemo as "slow as hell"22:13
Venemosee?22:13
Venemothis is typically a detail which matters to end users22:14
alteregoOn the N900 with a class 4 SD? :P22:14
Venemoon the N95022:14
Venemoon the internal EMMC22:14
alteregoVenemo: I'm asking faenil if he's heard complaints outside of the N90022:14
faenilalterego, internal EMMC22:14
faenilalterego, eh I'm not 100% sure now22:14
alteregofaenil: which is about as fast as a C4 SD22:14
faenilalterego, but I think they weren't n900 users22:15
faeniln950 or n922:15
VenemoI'm also officially declaring it "slow as hell" now22:15
alteregoIf you're going to judge a phone on the first <5 minutes of flashing a new firmware you're an idiot :P22:15
Venemothanks.22:15
faenilalterego, world is full of idiots, we have to take them into account :D22:16
alteregoI witnessed the same with Fremantle on N900 and Harmattan on N950 :)22:16
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6008 Rejected promotion request22:16
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6007 Rejected promotion request22:16
Venemothe fact that _they_ are doing it wrong doesn't imply that _we_ should do it wrong too22:16
Venemoas I said, not even a lock screen appears now.22:16
Venemoif I were an unsuspecting user, I would panic22:16
alteregoVenemo: anyway, we've discussed doing pre-tracker caching before, and the idea got thrown out every time it was mentioned. Don't know why.22:16
Venemook22:17
Venemofyi, neither harmattan nor fremantle was this sluggish on firstboot22:18
alteregoWell, as soon as we get a first-boot wizard I guess no one will notice :P22:18
Venemook, it's been ~10 minutes now.22:19
Venemohow much longer should I expect it to be nuts?22:19
alteregodunno, probably another 10 :)22:19
Venemolol22:19
alteregoAt this point I usually make a cup of tea and have lunch,22:19
alteregolol22:19
Venemolol22:19
VenemoI want to be sleeping soonish, so cup of tea is a bad idea right now22:20
faenilgood night people :) cya tomorrow :)22:20
Venemogood night faenil :)22:21
alteregoYeah, me too.22:21
Venemogood night to you too alterego :)22:27
alteregog'night :)22:27
VenemoI'll go to sleep too. hoping the N950 will come to its senses eventually22:27
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w00tVenemo: "lockscreen not displaying" is broken, not slow22:31
w00talso, I haven't noticed any significant usability issues after reflash, mostly because we don't preinstall any content for tracker to index anymore seemingly22:31
Venemohm22:33
Venemothen what? did I do something wrong?22:33
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Venemow00t, nevermind, it seems to be OK after a reboot22:37
w00tI don't know, but you should never end up at a black screen22:39
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Venemo_N950we are in desperate need of a better input method plugin22:42
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VenemoI see we also have a new terminal22:44
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Venemoanyway, I'm falling asleep now22:56
Venemohave a nice evening everyone :)22:56
Venemow00t, I got the code, tomorrow I'll give it some more polish and push it.22:56
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