Thursday, 2013-01-10

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* lpotter takes ofono-qt out back and shoots it with a sling-shot00:15
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kulveat least qt5 doesn't seem to use any of those EGL_NOK_* Nokia extensions04:22
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* lpotter wants to rewrite ofono-qt05:34
kulveQt 4.8 do contain checks for EGL_NOK. At least for the meego runtime(?), not sure if it's expected elsewhere or if anybody is tested the elsewhere part with Nemo:05:38
kulvehttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/EGL_NOK_issues05:38
specialkulve: are you using the meego graphicssystem?05:39
kulveI think I'm using opengl gfx system05:39
kulveQT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=runtime05:41
kulveQT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=opengl05:41
specialtry QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl05:41
kulvewhat does that change?05:41
specialruntime is meant to allow the meego graphicssystem to switch between opengl (for active applications) and raster (when inactive)05:42
specialbecause SGX drivers make it very expensive to keep opengl contexts05:42
specialnothing in Qt should *require* any of those extensions, except maybe the meego graphicssystem.05:43
kulveyeah, I guess it would be nice to have first a working system and then see if those could be optimized/accelerated with some other extensions than the NOK ones05:44
kulveno change, the whole display is still black when the vkb should be visible05:45
specialthat's more likely to be something with mcompositor or maliit05:46
specialhow the keyboard works is ..strange05:46
kulveI did unset the default runtime (QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=) and now I don't see anything..05:48
kulveX is running but still I see the text console still05:48
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kulveThe window compositing works properly with opengl runtime (i.e. video's and 3d benchmarks are shown properly as live thumbnails) so it seems to be only the keyboard that has troubles. Or the keyboard combined with the nemo window manager05:57
w00tkulve: run maliit-server with -use-self-composition and see if that changs anything06:24
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Sagelpotter: I hope you mean libofono-qt https://github.com/nemomobile/libofono-qt  :)06:47
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kulvew00t: I need to wait until evening before I can test that, but thanks for the suggestion, will test06:54
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7626 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/762607:34
kulvew00t: actually, what is the correct place for adding that parameter? I think I had some problems with it last time. It was autolaunched from dbus or something?07:35
w00tsystemd service, iirc07:38
w00ti forget07:38
w00tor you can just run it by hand (killall and relaunch it)07:38
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7626 Accepted promotion request07:41
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7627 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/762707:41
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7602 Accepted promotion request07:49
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7627 Accepted promotion request07:55
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7614 Accepted promotion request08:01
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7612 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/761208:05
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kulvercg: I tried your patch, no change08:58
kulvercg: I also created a wiki page related to extensions: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/EGL_NOK_issues08:59
rcgkulve, i see08:59
rcgwell, it was worth a try, i guess08:59
kulveyeah08:59
kulvercg: just FYI: special noted about setting QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl instead of runtime: "runtime is meant to allow the meego graphicssystem to switch between opengl (for active applications) and raster (when inactive) because SGX drivers make it very expensive to keep opengl contexts"09:00
rcgah i see09:01
Stskeepsand some extra benefits09:01
kulveand those are?09:02
Stskeepssec09:03
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Stskeepseither way, not likely to work on non-nokia :/09:03
kulvedid I understand it correctly that some of these NOK extensions are supported only by the SGX drivers for Nokia's products, not even on the TI's SGX drivers for e.g. pandaboard?09:03
Stskeepsright09:04
Stskeepsit has some stuff for dithering, composition, etc i think09:04
kulvewell, all those extensions are dead. Better to move on ;)09:05
rcgthe extension is dead. long live the extension.09:05
Stskeepsyeah..09:06
kulvethey weren't all even standards (at least I didn't see them in the Khronos' list) but I think the extensions supported by tegra are09:08
kulvehttp://www.khronos.org/registry/egl/ <-- that doesn't list any NOK extensions09:08
Stskeepsyes09:09
Stskeepsi'm not really able to defend those extensions but they had their reasons for being there, for performance or memory usage09:10
kulveyeah, I know. Not many of the standard extensions provide what X11 needs..09:10
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phaeronSage: please redo review for 761209:45
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yuntaphaeron: what's up with this rq? is it normal acceptance path?09:54
phaeronobs times out a lot due to the heavy kernel diff09:55
phaeronand I have to reapply the process09:56
phaeronSage: accepted the review while it was in error state09:56
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yuntaah09:57
yuntaok09:57
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sledgesgood moarning10:21
rcgmorning sledges10:23
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Sagephaeron: SR#7611 same thing10:32
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7611 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/761110:35
phaeronSage: there10:35
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Sagethanks10:43
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Sagephaeron: could we make the-boss do notifications insatead of messages to channel? :)10:44
Sageat least to the meego-boss chan10:45
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sledgesspecial, just tried QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl on Pandaboard - "mcompositor[202]: ERROR: Bad drawable!" 3x and lipstick died before drawing anything on screen. reverting to meego10:49
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kulvewhy would meego work on panda, if it needs those NOK extensions?10:49
sledges=meego works fine (lipstick)10:50
kulveok10:50
sledgesbut good point kulve - in my case everything dies when another opengl/qml app is launched from within lipstick10:50
sledgesand that's when those NOK should be coming into play by mcompositor10:51
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sledgesbut Nemo runs fine on other non-nokia devices (x86)10:51
kulvenon-accelerated?10:52
sledgesand even you (N7 arm) can launch other apps from within lipstick (but probably you are not using accelerated graphics)10:52
sledgesgood questions - is x86 accelerated?10:52
kulveI guess it uses mesa and for mesa there were some fixes10:53
sledgesright10:53
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kulvewhen will nemo switch to qt5? That should help here :)10:53
sledgesa year ago I used lipstick on Freescale imx53 - that was accelerated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIHRLbAAFIE also KDE Plasma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbQU6n8Zkw10:54
sledgeswhy would it help? mcompositor is relying on those extensions, no?10:54
sledgeswhy would Qt opengl rely on something Nokia-specific on anther device?10:55
Stskeepswell, it should work without, too10:55
kulvesledges: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/EGL_NOK_issues10:56
sledgesok, so on N7 we have vkb black screen, on Pb we have Xorg dying when accelerated apps launched from lipstick10:56
kulveI didn't start to study, how those are used10:56
sledgescould be related, could be not10:56
sledgeskulve: 18:23 < Stskeeps> some of them might be stupid nokia ones..10:57
sledgeswhen talking about eglext-test10:57
Sagecan we drop meegotouch-home package from CE:UX:MTF already btw? w00t Vesuri special et al.11:03
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7612 Rejected promotion request11:11
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Sageoh... yunta creq or resubmit kernel if vbox is accepted without it11:12
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yuntafck....11:27
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Sagephaeron: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7611 should this ask me for new review now?11:30
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phaeronSage: added review11:43
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7628 Rejected promotion request11:50
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Sagephaeron: did the cobs break down or something?11:51
SageGettin e.g. "11:51
SageUnable to fetch diff: tar:11:51
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Sageon reviews11:51
Sagee.g. https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/762811:53
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7611 Rejected promotion request11:54
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sledgesJake9xx, which ubuntu for pandaboard image do you have? and a link maybe?12:09
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phaeronSage: *shrug*12:30
sledgesCOBS works for me fine Sage (for compiling, not reviews though)12:30
Sagesledges: well, I'm doing something wrong in my SR's as the review is broken I guess12:32
phaeron7630 looks ok12:32
Sageyes12:32
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7629 <- looks bad as well12:32
sledgesyowzer12:33
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7631 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/763112:34
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7630 Rejected promotion request12:34
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7631 Accepted promotion request12:38
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7632 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/763212:40
Sagehttps://gitorious.org/~rmstoi/meego-terminal/mtermite/commit/820eda8bbfdaa8c1592a95a20eca290ef5f927ce o_012:41
Sagewell now it works :)12:43
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7634 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/763413:07
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7632 Accepted promotion request13:11
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yuntacreq, interesting13:35
yuntais it going to create one request with all the packages within?13:35
phaeronyes13:36
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7634 Accepted promotion request13:48
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yuntaphaeron: I've made my creq with kernel and virtualbox, so prepare for timeouts, sorry :D14:06
yuntais it trying to do full diff on binary file, or what?14:07
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phaeronyunta: yes on the tar14:08
phaeronyunta: and yes two retries so far14:08
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7635 Rejected promotion request14:08
yuntauh....14:09
phaeron:D14:09
yuntano specfile in virtualbox, wtf :D14:11
Sageempty response?14:12
yuntaFAILED check_valid_changes (virtualbox): No specfile in virtualbox [-]14:13
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7636 Rejected promotion request14:13
yuntaalthough it displays diff for virtualbox.spec underneath.....14:13
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phaeronnasty14:24
yuntareopening doesn't seem to be doing anything14:25
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phaeronyunta: that never does anything14:27
phaeronit might in  the future14:27
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yuntaI'll revoke this one and retry. Got some (connection?) problems during creq once, so ....14:32
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7637 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/763714:34
yuntaprechecks succeeded now? I'm lost completely.14:35
phaeronyes, now sage needs to approve review14:36
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yuntadid you fix anything between my two identical creqs ?14:38
phaeronnope14:40
phaeroncobs is overloaded14:41
yuntaok14:41
sledgesJake9xx, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard14:44
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kulvewhat starts maliit? I've already added a new parameter to dbus service file and to /etc/xdg/autostart/maliit-server.desktop but still the maliit-server is run without that parameter15:41
phaeronxdg autostart is not used anymore , systemd user session is in control15:42
kulveright, there's /lib/systemd and there's /usr/lib/systemd/15:44
sledgeskulve, /usr/lib/systemd/user/nemo-mobile-session.target.wants/maliit-server.service15:44
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sledges/lib/'s system, /usr/lib/'s user15:44
kulveyup, that one works. Thanks15:45
sledgesnp15:46
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kulvew00t: if I the -use-self-composition option, I see only a flash of the nemo "lock screen" and then I'm back at the console (although X.Org is still running etc.)15:52
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kulvesame seems to happen if I select "raster" as the QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM. If I select "native" there, I get very slow UI and no vkb at all (these without the -use-self-composition option for maliit)15:54
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kulvethere's a popup/infobanner shown after start up in the "lock screen" saying "charging" or something like that. I think it blanks everything else while it's showing. Maybe it's similar issue with that popup than with vkb?16:01
sledgescore blimey Jake9xx, with `strace -p <ofXorg>` crash does not happen!16:13
sledges(because Xorg runs slower whilst straced?)16:14
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sledgesdebugging segfaulting mcompositor via gdb and its -debugsource in just three commands for preparation - gotta love MeeGo!!17:03
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Sage:)17:20
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kulvefrom where do the qml gallery (tracker?) search it's pictures and videos?17:22
kulves,do,does,17:22
SageI would think XDG dir's17:26
Sage/home/nemo/Pictures or what ever it was called.17:26
Sagethere is cmd called xdg-create-dirs or something that does the dirs17:26
kulveif was that at some point but I haven't seen those directories in awhile..17:26
Sageyes, something changed and those are not created in image builds/boot anymore. Feel free to file a bug about those. Need to get it back in place.17:28
kulveI also tried to create them manually back then but qml gallery didn't still find anything. That's why I assumed they where moved somewhere17:28
Sageoh. Well last time I put them to /home/nemo/Pictures and it found them fine17:29
kulvehmm. I wonder why my .ks has mer as the user even though I create it from the .yaml files that has "nemo" in them..17:29
Sagekulve: if you inherit mer things later it will override that nemo one17:30
Sagekickstarter overrides older info with newer when inhering stuff17:31
kulveok17:32
Sagepeople should file bugs about the problems as I forgot to do things otherwise :)17:33
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sledgesapparently this is related Jake9xx, I am getting the same error (from gdb): http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/4527413617:37
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7637 Accepted promotion request17:38
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7640 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/764017:40
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7640 Rejected promotion request17:54
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7642 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/764217:57
StskeepsSage: so we discovered the meego settings issue was due to applauncherd17:58
Stskeeps?17:58
SageStskeeps: yes, filed a bug about that18:00
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Stskeepsok18:00
Stskeepsso mer prerelease seems OK?18:00
Sagefor some reason applauncherd when used --type=q with mtf app it segfaults18:00
SageStskeeps: I would say yes18:00
Stskeepsok18:00
SageStskeeps: https://review.merproject.org/#change,916 kick this18:01
Sagelbt: rebase this https://review.merproject.org/#change,92318:01
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lbtSage: would love to :/18:02
SageStskeeps: this ok https://review.merproject.org/#change,644 ?18:03
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SageStskeeps: also this needs kicking https://review.merproject.org/#change,88818:03
Stskeepsyes, i'd prefer to do that after release has been made :P18:04
Sageactually there is huge amount of stuff that would need kicking :P18:04
SageStskeeps: well I though that those things do not matter when release is made18:07
Stskeepsi just want to keep the bw available :P18:07
sledgesJake9xx, apparently segfault in XFilterEvent:91:LockDisplay(ev->xany.display); is just the symptom not the cause (as the Xorg display's dead already at that point)18:09
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7642 Accepted promotion request18:24
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kulvercg: I updated the kernel. It moslo stuff works, kexec doesn't (but I haven't got it working ever) and actually nemo did boot on second attempt..18:45
kulveafter a reboot that is18:45
kulveand yay, after loading g_multi (why doesn't it load automatically?) I get both /dev/ttyGS0 and usb018:47
kulveI also get /dev/sdX but I can't mount it (which kind of makes sens)18:48
kulve+e18:48
kulvercg: although after blanking I lost the nemo UI again.. I guess it's running, I just don't see the X18:50
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rcgkulve, cool :)18:56
rcgsounds good18:56
rcgwrt kexec.. i am seriously considering dropping this in favor of just flashing the kernel18:57
rcginstallation procedure would then be: use moslo for "flashing" the rootfs, restart, flash new kernel, voila18:57
dm8tbrstatistically that's going to have a high kill rate18:58
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kulvercg: that procedure is good for me (I've been doing it all the time)19:03
kulvedm8tbr: ?19:04
dm8tbrkulve: sooner or later flashing is going to fail for one reason an the other leaving you with an unbootable kernel19:05
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rcghmm, i think the wear leveling mechanisms should assure that the flash lasts very long nowadays19:17
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dm8tbrrcg: maybe, there are other problems, low battery, etc19:37
dm8tbrdamaged file19:38
dm8tbretc19:38
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kulvedm8tbr: unbootable kernel can always be reflashed19:57
kulvewe are not flashing the bootloader and flashing that should be easily possible19:58
kulveshould NOT be easily possible..19:58
dm8tbrkulve: sure, still it will render your device fit for a PC reflash. Preferably happens in the least convenient situations.19:59
kulvedm8tbr: well, you can't do antyhing without a PC, so..19:59
dm8tbrthen you can just always send in the kernel over usb?20:00
kulveyes20:00
kulveyou mean without flashing it? Yeah, that's possible but highly inconvenient20:01
kulvebut if you are anyway flashing an experimental rootfs there, it's mess in any case20:01
rcgbtw, with installation via moslo i mean uploading moslo kernel and initrd via usb20:04
rcgnot flashing it20:04
kulveI guess that was the initial instruction? I think it would be enough20:06
rcgnah, initial instruction was to flash moslo, then boot moslo and copy rootfs via usb, and then use the moslo kexec stuff to load the kernel from the root partition20:08
rcgunfortunately there are only so many hours in a day.. and there are so many other things to do that are much more appealing than writing documentation :D20:09
kulveat least that shows full hd video with gst-launch nicely both in fullscreen and in thumbnail20:15
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kulvetoo bad, qml gallery doesn't find anything and the vkb is broken. Otherwise that would be quite usable20:15
kulveglmark2-es2 doesn't run properly in a normal fullscreen window but the composited thumbnail works20:17
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Sagekulve: I'll check the xdg dirs tomorrow or so.20:22
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7643 Rejected promotion request20:40
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Jake9xxsledges: sorry, got on a sudden roadtrip and could not come to irc after work23:51
Jake9xxsledges: but last night I studied some stuff and the kernel driver must match the xorg driver which must match the omap_pvr.so stuff23:51
Jake9xxsledges: i.e. we need to find what kernel the omap in ubuntu(linaro) is using and start from that23:52
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Jake9xxbut let's continue that23:53
Jake9xxsledges: tnx a lot for the ks, building a mer minimal here for tomorrow23:53

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