Wednesday, 2013-02-06

Sleepy_Codermajic.one@gmail.com00:14
Sleepy_Codertesting something :>00:14
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Sleepy_Coderspecial: if it's not plaintext I get sex.00:16
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rantomMorning05:39
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zchydemmorning06:23
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Sagemorning07:37
zchydemsledges: did you manage to get back to home safely from Brussels?07:38
Stskeepsmorn sage, zchydem07:39
zchydemStskeeps: feeling better?07:39
Stskeepsa little bit, probably was a good idea to not fly to helsinki07:39
zchydemwell traveling when sick sucks07:40
sledgeszchydem, thanks, swapping drivers eased up the journey. You're back on track fine?07:43
zchydemsledges: yes, everthing went fine07:44
zchydemeverything07:44
sledgesgood stuff07:45
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7811 Accepted promotion request08:12
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niqtmorning08:33
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sledgeshi niqt09:42
niqthi sledges09:45
niqtthe channel is silent, are jollas working hard?09:46
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Aardyep09:48
dm8tbrthey always are :)09:54
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gozeshould I as a end-user switch from Maemo to Nemo on my N900?10:20
sledgesrantom is testing Nemo on N900 at the moment btw10:21
dm8tbrdepends on what you're looking for in a mobile phone os10:21
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sledgeswhat are the implications in having meego-handset-maps (i.e. Nokia Maps) in Nemo?10:31
sledgesis it as free as OpenStreetMaps?10:32
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sledgesSage, this got stuck, needs kicking :) https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/778111:16
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rantomsledges: no, I am not. I have Nemo on my N95011:35
rantomMy N900 was recently re-flashed and I do not have uboot in it to boot Nemo11:36
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sledgesok, mixed up rantom :) it was topro on N900 ;)11:37
gryrantom: heh, you have them both, how peculiar11:37
rantomI am planning to reinstall ubooy again once the repositories are up again11:37
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rantomuboot*11:38
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toprosledges: some feedback of my nemo-on-n900 experience requested?11:44
sledgesnot explicitly, just goze had a question recently, should they switch from maemo to nemo11:45
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toprointeresting question ;) but goze, you can try without doing any harm to your maemo-installation, just dual-boot with nemo installation on micro-sd card11:46
toprotry nemo11:46
sledgeswell, the question was "should I as a end-user switch from Maemo to Nemo on my N900?" :)11:46
sledgesyes, trying doesn't cost anything11:47
toprosledges: then to be honest, my answer at the current state would be "no" for an end-customer11:48
sledgesmhm, maemo at the moment is more full fledged and 'productised' (given the years of developemnt ;))11:48
toproI personally was even using my openmoko for about an year as my primary phone, but you have to be really brave11:48
sledges+111:48
sledges:) I used it too, was even navigating around with AndNav on Cupcake 1.511:49
sledgesmy first satnav lol, when approaching a junction would sometimes crash :DDD11:49
sledgesthough I'm still alive11:49
toprobut you mustn't hear to your friends complaining about poor voice quality :)11:49
sledgesjust because you don't [hear them] :D11:50
toprowell voice on moko-side was ok. but on the other caller side was really poor, due to different sw/hw bugs on moko-microphone11:50
sledges:) are you following GTA04 topro ?11:51
toproactually no, I was interested in those times (3g connectivity on moko) but then I got attention to n900 (before falling and getting myself a robot-phone)11:51
sledgesrowboat?11:52
toproandroid11:52
sledgesah11:52
sledges:)11:52
toprobut i learned my lesson, dumped it, am back with my n900 to fill the gap until there is something sailfish-y to get my finger on :)11:53
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sledges:) lessons learned well11:54
toprowhy I would like to use nemo on n900 is to be prepared for mer/sailfish userland once its time. should not be too different from an app's perspective, right?11:56
sledgesyup11:57
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toprowould there be an app sdk working for all mer-based distros or would nemo, sailfish and all those need their own naitive app sdk?12:19
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Stskeepsthere's no common app story in mer12:25
toproStskeeps: ok got that. but at least nemo and sailfishos claim to eventually both support html5 (cordova) apps, right?12:42
Stskeepsright12:42
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toproand both use the same framework for native apps (Qt/Qml), right?12:43
Stskeepsright12:43
toproso at least for those two targets apps would be source-code compatible?12:43
toproor even binary?12:44
sledgesbut what if you write an app which shows an image, what API calls will you use to share that image (on social site e.g.) ?12:44
sledgesor add a notification to global UI system12:44
sledgesor a newsfeed to homescreen12:44
toprook, so those things are even out of mer-scope?12:45
sledgesthose are all UX-specific OS-agnostic features, and each OS will offer their API :{12:45
toprowell i was hoping there would be a little more compatibility layer to join forces12:46
sledgesbut that involves a massive amount of collaboration12:46
sledgesok, Nemo doesn't have a homescreen (or feeds' screen)12:46
sledgesbut it does have notifications (which just pop up, and don't land anywhere)12:46
sledgesso it's quite rudimentary12:46
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sledgesnow there will be talks between Sailfish (Jolla) and UbuntuPhone on common API, hopefully fruitful12:48
sledgeson Nemo side, maybe Jolla will upstream some sophisticated sailfish notification/homescreen/social-sharing/accounts-interconectivity frameworks to Nemo ;)12:49
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toproi'm just afraid that without joined forces there will simply be too little eco-system leading to too little interest. but I think thats trivial13:14
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sledgeswell, Sailfish can run Android apps fwiw :)13:21
topromaybe like wetab-os did ;)13:22
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Sagephaeron: 7781 is stuck13:40
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7190 Rejected promotion request13:54
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7605 Rejected promotion request13:55
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7512 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/751213:55
sledgeshmm today Nemo on N9: Problem: nothing provides pulseaudio-modules-nemo-music >= 2.1.3 needed by pulseaudio-settings-n950-2.1.3-1.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.noarch13:56
sledgesshall I keep obsolete pulseaudio-settings-n950 or break dependency? or cancel :D13:57
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7421 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/742114:00
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7374 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/737414:02
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7326 Rejected promotion request14:02
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7393 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/739314:06
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7396 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/739614:08
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7458 Rejected promotion request14:08
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7191 Rejected promotion request14:09
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7292 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/729214:10
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7610 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/761014:16
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7792 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/779214:16
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7373 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/737314:17
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sledges8]14:17
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phaeronsorry, never mind the dust14:19
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sledgesstrange, since some are already accepted :)14:19
phaeronyou mean revoked14:20
sledgesyup &)14:20
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7271 Rejected promotion request14:21
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7781 Rejected promotion request14:21
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7389 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/738914:22
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7439 Rejected promotion request14:23
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timmyi want to boot up nemo by flashing its kernel using the flasher. nemo mobile is flashed on microSD card, what paramets should I enter for booting that?16:01
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello !18:18
Sfiet_Konstantinhello sledges18:18
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kontio"tracker-control --status" gives me: Store                - Unavailable, in a Vbox Nemo image, any idea what goes wrong?20:07
kontioi48620:08
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DaltonXnoob question: I'm trying to build a Nemo image using the Mer platform SDK with the following cmdline "sudo mic create livecd -A i586 -o . handset-i586-vm.ks", but this fails with "Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : syslinux-extlinux-4.05-1.2.i586 requires libc.so.6". Any idea why?21:27
DaltonXand there is bunch more "x requires y" lines21:29
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sledgesSage, can only phaeron kick this: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7812 :)22:50
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7815 Rejected promotion request23:52
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