Tuesday, 2013-04-09

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Sagew00t: pong03:35
iekkuSage, have you realized it's midnight still? :P03:41
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Sageit is? :)03:48
Sagesure about that?03:48
SageI see light from the window alread so I though it was time to get up :P03:48
iekku:D03:55
iekkuSage, i have heard that so many times... and also have heard something about hongkong time zone being more suitable for me... + w00t is living in west, it's really a night there (or was)03:56
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niqtmorning07:13
iekkumorning07:14
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niqtiekku excuse me for yesterday when i have disturbed in nemo-meeting07:16
iekkuniqt, no need to excuse, we should have more people there07:17
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Macerhello12:19
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MacerVideo Playback  NOK (2)12:22
Macerno video on the n900 huh? :-/12:23
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* sledges just booted Nemo image on Pandaboard ES successfully15:29
sledgesOOB15:29
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: so you got a pandaboard ES ?15:35
Sfiet_Konstantinlast week you did not had one (IIRC)15:35
sledgesSage, Pb ES: https://pastee.org/qsd9w15:35
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, yes, just popped on my desk :)15:35
Sfiet_Konstantin:) gift from santa15:36
Sfiet_Konstantinsince winter is still here in some countries (snow in fin)15:36
sledgesdon't know who's that Eenemo ( Venemo? :)) who wrote it hangs: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard&action=history15:36
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kulvenemo could use better apps. Like a browser that's being developed or a desktop/whatever that supports widgets and whatnot. Maybe Jolla should offer bounties or developer devices for people fixing such enchancement bugs..16:13
sledgeswith qt5 switchable in mer, snowshoe browser is not far from running16:16
sledgesNemo is like a sandbox. A company grabs it off and moulds it into a product (think Jolla). Any company can do that, I'd love to work for one. They just don't know Nemo/Mer exist and are revolutionary..16:17
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sledgesfor the community - it's what remains - a sandbox. Until there will be enough unpaid enthusiasts to enhance apps and UX16:17
kulveI would say that there's way too much to do currently.16:18
sledgesyup, it's loads to do until it becomes every-day usable16:18
kulveI got the qt5 experience demo running on my qt4 nemo. Where do I get the showshoe browser? :)16:19
sledgeshttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=snowshoe&project=home%3Acxl000%3Ahawaii16:20
sledgesstrange, cxl000 has recently disabled its builds ;)16:22
sledgesmust be the qt5 mer addition16:22
kulveyet another dead project?16:23
kulvehttps://github.com/snowshoe/snowshoe16:23
kulve"Repository Moved"16:24
kulvewell, doesn't look any better in gitorious..16:24
sledgesit's been given a new home, last commit 29 Jan 201316:25
kulvenew home without any real commits?16:26
sledgesmy scratch pad on this: https://pastee.org/dyw2k16:26
sledgeseverything is dead, unless someone is proactive, and picks up the least dead one ;)16:26
sledgesI'd write a ml list post to build up a team of 2-3 programmers keen to have a nice browser on Nemo, always better than 1 soldier in a field16:27
sledgesmy next target - nemo social plugins, learning+writing some QML for greater good :)16:28
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sledgesif there aren't enough people to generate traction/interest, means not enough hardware at hand -- who wants to code something they can't have daily hands-on?16:34
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sledgesSo I suggest to make an awesome video about Nemo on N7 kulve  ;) pointing out those few but cool features on Nemo currently, emphasising execution speed and lean and mean technology behind it, and that you can code anything you like on top of it for you and your daily life primarily (frends come second in this case, girlfriends are somewhere between first and second lol)16:35
sledgeshttp://openetherpad.org/urfxx467L616:35
cxl000sledges the qt5webkit was a minimal packaging effort and I've not gotten to debugging it and so snowshoe does not run well.16:40
sledgesyup16:42
* sledges eyes on Bostik16:42
sledgeswait, he's in #mer only :))16:42
sledgesthough someone could overtake your effort, would you assist them cxl000 ? Bostik was also very helpful.16:43
cxl000I'm looking to get hawaii working so my Qt5 build has a few cutting edge patches needed for qtwayland16:47
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: back to that nemo thing, I would love better coordination on the UI front, to make the product looking "good". Because today, everybody, including companies, love to see good looking things16:47
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sledgescxl000, what's hawaii? something like zephyr?16:47
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cxl000Yes. A qml qtwayland based desktop.16:49
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, now Nemo has been Harmattanised by thp :)16:49
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah16:49
Sfiet_KonstantinI have seen that16:50
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm waiting for a specific components set (better design of Harmattan ?) done in Qt516:50
sledgescxl000, the whole UX ? something of the scale like seadot?16:50
Sfiet_Konstantinsome nice components deserve to be integrated to nemo (like a file picker, a media picker etc.)16:51
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, I read a use-case from your brain: a facebook app wants to upload a photo ;P right?16:53
sledgessounds like eyes on nemo-qml-plugins16:54
cxl000sledges, Yes a whole UX.16:54
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: any upload dialog yeah, including facebook for example16:55
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: not really nemo qml plugins, since they mostly provide non-gui stuff in QML16:55
Sfiet_Konstantinbut like com.nokia.meego.nemo.extra16:55
sledgescxl000, can't find screenshots of hawaii-desktop :{ looks like mainly one person (plfiorini) is on the case :)16:57
sledgesso kulve wants a browser, Sfiet_Konstantin wants a picker, me wants an integrated lightweight qml facebook app, w00t gets constantly nagged about qmlmail app :) Think we need some prioritised feature request / TODO wiki page :)16:59
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I want, but I'm very willing to contribute16:59
kulvesledges: enchancement bugs in the bugzilla16:59
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, I'm a bit afraid of meego components16:59
sledgesI'm sure everyone of us answers the same16:59
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, why them? mtf must go :D17:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinseems complex17:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinhard to hack ?17:00
Sfiet_Konstantin(like the whole theming stuff)17:00
Sfiet_Konstantin:(17:00
w00thow's that complicated? it's just a bunch of images17:01
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, theming is the most innocent mtf relic, we're trying to avoid everything else and move mtf out asap17:01
sledgesstick with qml and nemo-qml-plugins17:01
w00tthere's no need to be afraid of it, anyway, it's here to stay17:01
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah, that would be awesome17:02
sledgesit will stay, but discouraged to use it on any new projects, and encouraged to port old ones too17:03
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w00tit will probably go away when nemo eventually makes the jump to qt 517:03
kulveI tried compiling qmltube for nemo but the .pro file seems to be very harmattan specific..17:03
w00tunless anyone wants to step up and maintain it and handle the porting17:03
w00t(unlikely)17:03
kulvenemo seems to be able to run qt5 stuff already17:04
kulveeven if it is itself qt417:04
w00tkulve: of course17:04
w00tnothing stops that17:04
w00twhat I mean there is, when the system as a whole has switched over (and probably moved off to wayland and other flying car future things)17:04
w00tSage: why on earth is nemo-theme-default in devel:mw and not devel:ux?17:06
w00t(not that it matters hugely)17:06
sledgeskulve, got lost already. Maybe a simple high-level wiki page would be more consice, leaving clutteredness for bugzilla? ;) https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=enhancement17:07
w00tsledges: if i'm able to be brutally honest.. what would help more than more lists is people contributing to things17:08
kulveyeah..17:08
w00tit doesn't take more than 30 seconds to note that there's an awful lot of sore areas, so it'd be nice if someone just picked something that they don't like and tried to hack it (and asked for help if they run into problems)17:09
kulvew00t: but also. If one could actually do something with the device, they might fix other things. Now there are not that many use cases that you can actually do..17:09
w00tkulve: catch 22: we need to get better to attract people to do things, but there are not enough people making it better17:10
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Macerhm. so this is meego for n900?17:12
kulvethat bug list pointed by sledges has a list of old bugs marked as resolved or even verified. Why not closed?17:12
w00tMacer: nemo runs on but is not limited to the n90017:13
w00tkulve: I don't know if we have a proper process for bug handling (cc iekku)17:14
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w00tkulve: how do you think it should work?17:17
Macerok17:17
Maceri'm trying to install it on my broken n900 heh17:18
Macerthe modem doesn't work on it17:18
Macereverything else does tho.. i just want to see if it can use sports-tracker17:18
w00tMacer: i'm hoping that you mean the modem was already broken ;)17:18
Macersince i have a new n900 on its way and don't wan to have to keep swapping the sim17:18
Maceryeah it was heh17:18
Macerit has been broken for quite some time17:18
Maceri'm reading the wiki on how to install this17:19
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w00tMacer: i'm not much use at getting it booting on an n900 (mine has been long dead now), but if you have questions after having it booted, try me17:20
Macerso far no. i'm installing u-boot now ;)17:21
Maceri don't care if this n900 blows up17:21
Maceri was just going to use it as spare parts for the new one anyways heh17:21
Macergrrr. of course i need to rawwrite a microsd and have no adapter lol17:23
Macerlet me make sure u-boot installed17:23
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Macerw00t: how well did meego work? i saw a video of it running a little from the nemo website17:23
w00tMacer: meego, no idea anymore - things have progressed a long time since then. in general i'd not have high hopes on the n900 simply because there aren't many people working on it anymore.. but i'd hopefully expect the basics (wifi, display, charging) to be ok. Sage might have more of an idea of the status as he still has one I think17:24
Maceryeah i was reading up on the stuff that worked17:25
Macerand playing video was red lol17:25
Macerthat's rough right there17:25
w00twhat was red?17:25
Macerwell.. the video part.. and there was something else but i can't remember i'd have to look it up again17:26
Macerblah. let me find an adapter heh17:27
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kulveat least the battery seems not to end immediately even though the display doesn't completely turn off17:31
w00tkulve: n900 display doesn't blank?17:31
kulvenexus 717:32
kulveI've been playing it for couple of hours and the battery has gone down 1%. Assuming the numbers are real, but I assume so..17:32
w00tbattery numbers are probably being reported via upower17:32
w00tmce is supposed to blank the display, but i don't know much about how it actually does it17:33
kulvebug 65817:33
Merbot`Nemo bug 658 in N950-N9 "Display not completely turned off on lock-screen" [Critical,New] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65817:33
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kulvebut currently I don't know how to turn it off by using /sys so I can't really debug mce..17:33
w00tannoying. if that was known i'd guess it'd be easier to manage17:34
Macercritical!17:35
* Macer sounds red alert17:35
Macerheh17:35
Maceri'm writing the image now17:35
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Macerso i just have to throw this thing into the n900 and it will boot nemo huh?17:35
Maceri probably should have used a better sd but oh well heh17:36
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w00tyes, hopefully17:37
w00tbe patient17:37
w00tfirst boot especially on n900 was always quite slow17:37
Maceri'm still writing the image to the sd ;)17:37
Macerif sports-tracker runs and it is somewhat functional i'm sold17:38
Macerotherwise i'm either going to have to get another prepaid sim or just have to keep swapping17:38
Macerand i've learned that constantly swapping with the n900 results in usb ports falling off and modems dying17:38
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Macerwow... this image write sure does take a while17:39
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Macerdone! lets do this!17:47
Macerlol17:47
Macerwow... got the splash screen17:48
Macerand now i guess it's doing its "first boot" thing17:48
Macerwow.. wth?17:49
Maceri got some ecc read error :-/17:49
w00tyou put the back cover on, right?17:49
Maceryes17:50
Maceri got the splash screen and it started to boot17:50
Macerwent for a little bit then i got a really messed up ecc read error :-/17:50
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Maceri get the same errors when it boots during teh splash screen17:51
Macerbunch of ecc read errors17:51
Maceroh... ok.. and now it boots? weird17:52
sledgesMacer, a dodgy sd card?17:52
Macermaybe17:52
Macerit's running now17:52
sledgesalso sometimes takes a couple of boots to "iron itself out" really :)17:52
Macerhow odd17:52
sledgesecc is error correction code ;) so it corrected itself ;)17:52
Macerok.........17:53
Macerso like... wtf is up with the hw qwerty?17:53
w00t?17:53
Macerthe vkb keeps popping up even with the hw kb open17:53
w00tI refer back to what I said about not many people working on n900 anymore17:54
Macerlol17:54
Macerthat sucks :-/17:54
w00ti'd check what contextkit plugins are installed17:54
w00tonce you find out which plugin it's using, time to debug what it's doing, as it's probably not reporting the keyboard state correctly17:54
w00t(if you need help with any of that, ask)17:55
Macerheh17:57
Macerwell... i guess i can file a bug somewhere if anybody might actually fix it but yeah17:57
Maceri need to test it out some more17:57
Maceri just noticed that setting up the wifi17:57
sledgesMacer, if you file a bug, I'll tell you a cheap workaround (a kludge) :))17:58
sledgesbut only afterwards ;)17:58
Macerlol17:58
Macerwell i'm trying to figure out how to set the time too :)17:58
sledges(DISCLAIMER: kludges normally don't, but still might break the integrity of the system ;) use at your own risk)17:59
Macernice17:59
Macernow the settings app17:59
Macerdoesn't scroll lol17:59
sledgesdoes N900 have rotation sensor? try portrait/lanscape, and then scrolling again18:00
Macerdid that18:00
sledges:}18:00
Macerstill won't scroll :)18:00
Macerno idea how to exit the app18:00
Maceris there some sort of motion i can use?18:01
sledgesbinwise?18:01
sledges(only joking)18:01
Maceri mean on the screen to at least get a window to close18:01
Macerheh18:01
sledgesswipe from any edge18:01
Macermaybe the settings app just went flakey on me18:01
Maceryeah it's just not scrolling :)18:03
Macerdamn that's pretty bad18:03
Macerlet me reboot18:03
sledges:)18:03
Macermaybe something just went retarded18:03
sledgesyou could always try updating all18:03
sledgesbut first reboot sounds good :)18:04
Maceroh18:04
Macerdidn't even think about updating heh18:04
sledgeswhich image did you start with?18:04
sledgesversion18:04
Maceryeah it is an image from february18:04
Macerthe latest image they had18:04
sledgesok18:04
Macerhttp://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/0.20130218.1.NEMO.2013-03-24.2/nemo-armv7hl-n900/18:05
Macer021818:05
w00tI might know the problem with settings (thanks libmeegotouch)18:05
sledgesworth updating, but I don't remember settings not scrolling around that month on N918:05
w00ti'll take a look once i've finished my other pieces18:05
w00tif it's what i think it is, it's n900 specific18:05
Macerhm18:05
Maceri shut it down18:05
Macerand now holding the power button isn't starting it up :)18:06
sledgeson N9 takes some time to *really* shut itself down18:06
Macerno idea wtf just happened18:07
Macerbut i just yanked the battery too18:07
Macerand it still won't even try to power up18:07
Maceroh. there it goes18:08
Macerodd18:08
sledgesshould be able to massage it in, you are dealing with some high profile Mobile OS here ;)18:08
Macerhaha18:09
Macerwhere is the updateing?18:09
Macerin "packages" ?18:09
sledgesfirst, get connected18:09
Macerit is ;)18:09
sledgeswifi on?18:09
Macerthat was the first thing i did heh18:09
sledgesok18:09
sledges:)18:09
sledgesbest if you can also ssh ;)18:09
Macerinto or out of?18:09
sledgesinto18:10
Maceris it the same as maemo? just install openssh server?18:10
sledgesit has sshd running so nw18:10
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Macerhow about from teh finger term?18:10
sledgesyou should ssh from your PC18:11
Macerok18:11
sledgestbh, but using screen on fingerterm should be enough18:11
* sledges is a bit rusty now ;)18:11
sledgesso, launch fingerterm18:12
Macerwhat's the root pw?18:12
sledgestype screen18:12
sledgesenter18:12
Macernemo isn't it/18:12
sledgesnemo18:12
sledgesthen type su18:12
sledgesand rootpw18:12
Macernaw.. i just sshd18:12
Macerheh18:12
sledgesok18:12
sledgesbut still you need screen18:12
sledgesonce you have root shell in a screen session, shout back ;)18:12
Macerdone18:12
Macerheh18:12
sledgesok18:12
Maceralthough18:12
Maceri just ssh in as root18:13
Maceri didn't have to su18:13
sledgesok18:13
sledgesnp18:13
sledgestype:18:13
Maceri should probably change that pw heh18:13
sledgeszypper ref18:13
sledgeszypper dup18:13
sledgesafterwards18:13
Macerk18:13
Macerwow... the lack of hw qwerty support18:14
sledges(one for REFresh, another for Distro UPdate)18:14
Maceris driving me crazy :)18:14
Macerlol18:14
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sledgeshence the fingerterm ;D18:14
Macerok18:14
Macerall repositories have been refreshed18:14
sledgeszypper dup18:14
Macer15 packages to upgrade, 264 to downgrade, 17 to reinstall.18:14
MacerOverall download size: 108.5 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.3 MiB will be used.18:14
Macer264 to downgrade? :)18:15
Macerlol18:15
sledgesw00t, ^18:15
* Macer scratches his head18:15
sledges:)18:15
Macer15 to upgrade tho :-D18:15
sledges:D better than nothing, maybe it's due to mer-next ?18:15
sledgesif you write zypper lr , where do repos point ?18:15
Macermeh... y <cr>18:15
Macerheh18:16
Macerit's all the same to me... just a broken n900 ;)18:16
Maceri'm just testing it out18:16
sledgeswe're still delivering highest quality of support available :))18:17
Macerheh18:17
Macerit looks good tho18:17
Maceri mean if it was ironed out it would be awesome to use meego on my n90018:17
Macerhw qwerty and all heh18:17
Macerlike my own personal ghetto n950 :-P18:17
sledges:)) let's unify dictionaries: MeeGo Freemantle for N900 and Harmattan for N9xx ?18:18
Maceris it using fm for its base?18:18
Maceroh. it's doing like.... rpm stuff i guess?18:18
Macerheh18:18
sledgesno, it's more harmattany18:18
sledgesrpm and qt18:18
sledgesthough the name of base is now Mer18:19
Maceroh it is rpm ... rip apt lol18:19
Maceryeah18:19
sledgesMeeGo resurrected18:19
sledgesor MeeGo reconstructed18:19
Macerlol18:19
sledgesis what Mer stands for18:19
wmarone_heh18:19
Macerhahahaha!!18:19
sledgesand it's rip-roaring as you can see from updates frequency ;)18:19
wmarone_"stands for"18:19
Macerno i think mer was around far before meego ;)18:19
sledgesit came into being around meego18:19
Maceri remember when sts was doing it during maemo418:19
sledgesyea all the naming mishmash18:20
sledgesmoblin, et al :)18:20
Macerwow this is going to take a long while lol18:20
sledgesthe official statement from sts back in 2011 was reading MeeGo reconstructed, so18:20
sledges:)18:20
sledgeswhen they decided to split from a burning platform into the sea ;) (Mer)18:21
Macerlol!18:21
Macerpoor maemo18:21
Macer:'(18:21
sledgestell me about it...18:21
Macerpoor n900 really. nokia made so many mistakes18:21
sledgestoo many18:21
Macerand the hildon extortion unit didn't really seem to do much other than take donations :)18:21
Macerlol18:21
sledges:)18:22
Maceri recently got an e718:22
Macersymbian belle was so close to becoming so awesome18:22
Maceri use it as my day to day phone :)18:22
Macerif it had like a couple more months it could have contended18:22
Macerbelle is great18:23
Macerqt based as well.. then again tho... meego did very well for the complete lack of support nokia gave it18:23
sledgesI heard so many people saying the same.., about belle, about Meltemi, about PureView,. ..18:24
sledgeswe are the few crazy remaining ones, who sense the potential of MeeGo and keep it living. Good Jolla stood up on the production level too18:24
Maceryeah seems so18:25
Macerespecially with symbian heh18:25
Macerbelle is awesome18:25
Macerif it had like 3 things it would be perfect18:25
* sledges <- Linux craze18:25
sledges:)18:25
Macer1. an email notification in the status bar (wtf?) 2. a better txting/msg app 3. a better email app18:26
Maceroh18:26
Macerand a better stock web browser.. although i think fp2 has a much better one18:26
Macerbut e7 didn't get fp218:26
Macerhopefully i can half ass get this working with sports-tracker on my n900 so i don't have to keep sim switching to the e7 :)18:27
Macerlike i said earlier... switching and swapping an touching the n900. you're just begging for it to break.. the on on its way will be my 3rd18:27
* sledges driving off home, enjoy your effort Macer :)18:28
Maceryah thanks for the help18:31
Maceri'll work on it in a while.. i'm going running now ;)18:31
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Macerwith my e7 :-P18:31
Maceruhm18:34
Macerthe n900 froze during hte update18:34
w00thttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating18:35
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Maceryeah18:40
Macerthe network just died18:40
Macerit has resumed now after reinitializing the netowrk18:40
Macerah i see18:45
Macerso in order to not downgrade i was supposed to have selected a flavor of the type of updating i want using ssu?18:45
* w00t doesn't know much about ssu18:48
w00tone was probably selected by default18:48
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w00tSage: I want to delete libqttracker from devel:mw19:31
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ljp~lart connman for not returning errors on the 2nd bad wlan pass entry19:53
ljpthe more I know about connman, the more I feel it's only half finished.19:57
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Maceroh. it finished the "upgrade" heh21:16
sledgesMacer, yup sorry I was a bit rusty in Nemo commissioning terms :)21:16
Macerhuh?21:16
sledgeslol, we both came back alive at the same time :)21:16
sledgesupgrading etc21:17
Maceri just reboot21:17
Macerafter the update21:17
Macerthe method was the same21:17
Maceras in the wiki other than the ssu stuff21:17
Macerwhy are there so many apps with no icons? :)21:17
Maceri'm trying it out now after the "update" heh21:18
Macerlets see if the settings page scrolls :)21:18
sledgesmore than https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard#Screenshots ? ;)21:19
Macerlol21:19
Maceryeah that's what mine looks like ;)21:19
sledgesthen you're on a good path :))21:19
Maceri'm running the pkg manager update21:19
Macerto see what happens :)21:19
sledges:) so how's with the settings scrolling?21:20
Macernot sure yet21:21
Macerstill not scrolling :-/21:22
sledgesbeh :)21:23
specialis it not scrolling at all, or just on some particular hardware?21:24
Macerno bluetooth adapter found?21:24
Macernot scrolling on my n90021:24
Macerthe settings app21:24
Macerthere is a scrollbar that pops up showing it can scroll down a bit21:24
Macerbut touching/dragging won't let it scroll :-/21:25
specialhuh. scrolling is okay on n950 for me21:25
Macerthe settings app on n900 won't21:25
Macereverything else seems fine21:25
Macerbut i haven't gone into too many apps yet21:26
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specialsettings is meegotouch, almost nothing else is anymore21:27
specialbut it does scroll okay for me.21:27
Macerjust saying it doesn't for me on the n900 ;)21:28
specialyeah. not sure why that would be21:28
specialsomeday we'll get a new QML-based settings application..21:29
MacerTo change between release and rnd repositories currently you need to first install nemo-ssu-repos-*-rnd or nemo-ssu-repos-*-release depending which one you are using now.21:29
sledgesw00t mentioned something about blaming particulars in the libmeegotouch he'll be looking into shortly21:30
w00tthe n900 doesn't deliver QTouchEvents21:30
w00tand thanks for the reminder sledges21:30
* w00t checks21:30
sledgesah ok, np21:30
specialah, heh.21:30
Macerhm21:30
Macerhow do i install the nemu-ssu-repos?21:30
Maceri don't have ssu version 0.31 it seems21:31
Macerwhatever that is :)21:31
w00tit looks like the patch is missing...21:31
Maceror does that information not apply to the n900?21:31
w00tMacer: zypper info/search ssu shows nothing?21:32
aardMacer: it depends what you're using. if you are using devel level ssu now handles the repo management21:32
Macernemo-ssu-repos21:33
Macerah ok there ghey go21:33
Maceraard: yeah i need to install teh repos first it seems21:33
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Macerthen use ssu to change the flavor21:33
Maceri don't have the ssu bin21:33
Macerand how to i stop the vkb from popping up when the qwerty is slid open? :)21:34
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Macerthe whole move off of apt is kind of messing meup :)21:38
aardwhat? we had rpm in meego for over 3 years now :p21:38
w00twhat move off apt? we've been using rpm since 2011 here ;)21:39
Maceryeah i know heh21:39
Macerbut i haven't used meego at all21:39
Macerso there is a bit of a learning curve21:39
Macerlike just now i changed the flavor to devel21:39
Macerso i can make mine break sooner lol21:40
* aard started working (as in, getting paid for it) on meego 3 years ago21:40
Macerno idea what's going on with the settings scrolling tho heh21:40
w00tMacer: i'm working on submitting a fix already21:40
Maceroh21:40
Macerso there was an actual problem? :21:40
Macer:)21:40
w00tyes, a patch went missing21:40
Macerwell can you throw a setting in to maek the vkb close when usin ghte qwerty? heh21:40
w00tI already told you how to look into that21:41
Maceroh21:41
Macernice! heh... how is the gps functionality?21:41
w00tit should close, if it doesn't, that's a bug21:41
w00tI don't have an N900, so I can't do anything with it21:41
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Maceroh21:41
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Macerwell when i get my new one i can send you this one but the modem doesn't work in it21:41
w00tdon't21:42
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Macerok heh21:42
w00tI have my hands full enough with n9/n950 :p21:42
w00t(no offense)21:42
Macerlol21:42
MacerFORGET YOU THEN!21:42
Macer:)21:42
Macern950?21:42
Maceraren't there like... 100 of those? :)21:42
w00tthe hardware adaptation between the two is the same21:42
Maceri thoughtt the n9 was pretty much the n90021:43
Macersans qwerty21:43
w00turh21:43
wmarone_only with quadruple the RAM and a slightly updated processor21:43
w00thow do you mean?21:43
MacerInstalling: ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx .......................................................................................[done]21:43
MacerAdditional rpm output:21:43
MacerJob failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details.21:43
Macerwarning: %post(ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl) scriptlet failed, exit status 121:43
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Macerhope that doesn't ruin it heh...21:44
Maceri mean hardware wise.. i thought the n9 was incredibly similar to the n90021:44
sledgestrue for n9->n95021:44
sledgeseven those two differ21:44
w00tthere are more differences there, like different bme, and so on, and so forth21:45
* w00t pushes libmeegotouch to OBS and prepares to watch workers bleed21:46
Macerlol21:46
Macertoo bad the modem is broke on this n900... i was more concerned with testing out sports-tracker with the n90021:47
Macerif that's even possible.. and why is this thing taking forever to reboot? heh21:47
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vgradeMacer: \o21:50
Macerhey vgrade21:51
Macerwow now this thing is just stuck there at a blank screen since changing the flavor to devel and updating and rebooting21:51
* Macer facepalm21:53
Macerthat's what i get for setting it to "devel" heh21:55
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Macermeh. maybe setting it back to testing and restarting will work21:56
MacerJob failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details.21:58
Macerwarning: %post(ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl) scriptlet failed, exit status 121:58
w00tanything interesting in journalctl?21:58
Macerah sorry. i reboot22:00
Macerbut that is when updating with zypper22:00
Macerand all i get now is a blank screen :(22:01
Macerblah. going to have to reinstall nemo it seems22:01
MacerApr 10 01:01:12 localhost lipstick[439]: QmBattery is not functional because of a missing compile-time dependency. Please compile QmSystem with bmeipc.22:03
MacerApr 10 01:01:07 localhost systemd[216]: meegotouch-systemui.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=1122:04
Macerthat looks to be about the spot where everything fell off the rails22:04
Maceri ca't figure out what is broken :-/22:04
Macerlet me re-install22:04
w00tthe QmBattery warning is ok22:08
Macerwell i'm starting from scratch already ;)22:10
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Macerafter editing the /etc/ssu/ssu.ini and changing it to devel22:11
Maceri updated and reboot and nothing22:12
Macerwth22:14
* Macer pokes the SD with a stick22:14
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* Macer pokes it a couple more times22:19
Maceralrighty!22:28
Macerheh22:28
Maceryeah the n900 qwerty is severly broken heh22:33
Macerespecially things like the alt keys22:33
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Macerw00t: the accounts app as well22:46
Macerscrolling does not work22:46
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Macerthe beginning of he app seems to wor but going into the settings of the accounts doesn't22:47
Macerand the app is awful lol adding accts etc doesn't make much intuitive sense22:47
specialthat application was a ten minute hack22:48
w00t5 minute hack*22:48
w00tmost of which was looking up which mc-tool invocations to make22:48
w00tit was never really designed as anything except a stopgap for a proper account configuration tool22:48
Maceroh22:49
Maceryeah because i don't understand how you're supposed to set up a gmail acct in order to use telepathy/im22:49
Macerheh22:49
w00tadd it as a jabber account, username foo@gmail.com, password, and save it22:50
Macerwhere? under accounts?22:51
Maceri only get 2 options... xmpp and sip22:51
specialXMPP22:51
w00txmpp is jabber22:51
Maceryeah i tried that22:52
Macermade the account and then picked22:52
Macerenable online22:52
Macerthe acct disappeard by itself heh22:52
MacerRepository 'adaptation-common-release' is up to date.22:52
MacerUnexpected exception.22:53
MacerNot ready to read within timeout.22:53
w00trun zypper <whatever>22:53
w00t..again22:53
Maceram i supposed to remove common-release?22:53
Macernemo-ssu-repos-*-release22:54
Macerzypper install nemo-ssu-repos-*-rnd22:54
Maceri just ran the above22:54
Maceri figured it would automatically remove the release repo22:54
Macermaybe not?22:54
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w00taard: ^22:54
MacerThe following packages are going to be REMOVED: nemo-ssu-repos-adaptation-common-release nemo-ssu-repos-adaptation-release22:55
Macerhm22:55
Macerit seems that after adding rnd .. then release is still there22:55
Macerthis is either/or isn't it? not both?22:56
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Macer47 packages to upgrade, 264 to downgrade, 16 to reinstall.23:04
Maceri don't understand why so many things would be downgraded23:04
specialthere was a migration recently that caused the apparent downgrades.23:05
Macerah ok23:06
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