Friday, 2013-06-14

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Stskeepsmorn juiceme07:26
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juicemejust did a zypper up, and again a lot has changed. Seems the swiping between screens is more fluent now07:27
juicemeStskeeps, sup07:27
Stskeepsnot much.. new day07:27
juicemefine :) am doing more physical work now, with a real shovel...07:27
Stskeeps<- rubbish at physical work07:28
juicemeam supposed to be on a holiday, which measn am renovating07:28
juicemesame here, am hurting with muscles I did not know I had :)07:28
juicemebut anyway, I noticet that the icon animation has changed, from pulsing to kind of rotating07:29
juicemeis that hardcoded in lipstick or configurable?07:29
Stskeepsprobably just qml07:29
juicemeI haven't really played with qml a lot...07:30
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Burlonehi sage08:18
Burlonecan you help me?08:19
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SageBurlone: depends on your problem. You said you had problems with N9 installation?08:20
Burlonei have a problem with repartition08:21
Burlonei have tried a lot of time with Juiceme ma nothing to do08:22
SageI think that is the guide that should do the tricks08:23
BurloneI can just feel alone because I can not, I do not know the 'English08:24
* Sage needs to go away for an hour now.08:25
BurloneI do not download the file08:25
Sageoh right08:27
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Sagethose guides point to old locations08:27
SageBurlone: will check those today a bit later08:27
Burlonethanks a lot08:27
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faenilheeey o/08:57
Sagefaenil: hi08:58
SageVenemo_: yes got home safely08:58
faenilSage, got soaked wet ?:D08:58
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Sagefaenil: nah, wife came and picked me up ;)08:59
faenilSage, oh cool :D09:01
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nodevelI have one question about syncml service on nemo/mer... usually, the system-wide configs are placed /etc/sync, but in here it is /etc/buteo . so, should user configs be in $HOME/.sync/ or $HOME/.buteo ?09:16
nodevel(I'm just playing with it to try to establish google contacts sync)09:18
kavurinodevel: the profile files are stored under /etc/buteo and the runtime files + sync logs are under $HOME/.cache/msyncd09:19
kavuriguess all the runtime stuff is being moved to $HOME/.cache09:19
Sagefun fun fun... now the touch went totally mad on my n909:24
Sageit is hitting 1 like twice a second on the table and I'm not even touching it :D09:24
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello faenil !09:33
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, hey man :)09:33
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sledgeshouston we have a problem09:46
sledgesrebooted several times after yesterday's zypper dup09:46
sledgesalso went back to harmattan09:46
sledgesnow nemo doesn't boot anymore09:46
sledgeswhen i ssh - it seems / is mounted as read-only09:46
faenilI am updating Nemo :/09:48
w00tSage: ^09:48
w00tsledges: anything in dmesg?09:48
faenilI knew that, it's always Sage's fault! :D09:48
sledgescan't ssh anymore, it just shuts down09:48
faenilw00t, o/ how you doing man :)09:48
Sagefaenil: :P09:49
w00tfaenil: not terrible.. mentally preparing to spend a week offline09:49
sledgesi ssh`ed once yesterday, booting with usb cable plugged, so it doesn't go to shutdown straight away09:49
Sagefaenil: the device I showed yesterday had zypper dup from yesterday done on it :)09:49
faenilw00t, great09:49
sledgesbut now it shuts down even with cable plugged09:49
faenilSage, ;) thanks, I'm relieved :D09:49
sledges(reboots to be precise, and to complicate matters further)09:49
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w00tsledges: upgrading mine now09:59
w00twill see what happens09:59
sledgesthought you did that yesterday09:59
w00ti did09:59
w00ti'm upgrading again :)09:59
nodevelkavuri: thank you. so, the service files (i.e. with my username and password) should be stored system wide in /etc/buteo ?10:02
faenil485 packages to upgrade, lol10:04
sledgesmy nemo's dead :( any way to see kernel output/panics ?10:07
sledgesjust reboots after moslo, usb networking does not start at any point10:08
sledgesdoing this now:10:09
sledgesok to go ahead?10:09
sledgeswent ahead:
sledgescrazy stuff10:10
sledgesis that N9's NAND overscubbed? :)10:11
w00tsounds like something is a little broken indeed10:11
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sledgesbzImage is pointing to he flag of Grenada (SVG)10:17
kavurinodevel: the username/password should be stored to accounts&sso (currently, they are in profile xml). I am working on integrating them10:18
sledgesyes, nemo resurrected \o/ by doing `mv bzImage bzImage.grenada_flag_lol; ln -s vmlinu* bzImage`10:21
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faenilmeeting dm8tbr for lunch, I'll leave the n950 here updating, I hope it won't die in the meanwhile :D10:22
faenilyou know, Nemo :P10:22
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sledgesnice, wifi is connected on boot \o/10:23
sledgeswith old settings i had to go into wifi, and click on AP, to connect10:24
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sledgesw00t, both issues now gone! closing bug 677 and bug 521 ; many cheers :)10:44
MerbotNemo bug 677 in Window Manager/Compositor "all lipstick screens can get zoomed in landscape" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
MerbotNemo bug 521 in Home "When rotating the device while unlocking the screen the unlock screen partial lockscreen is shown" [Normal,Verified: fixed]
nodevelkavuri: I see. so is there currently any way to create/edit these service options10:45
sledgesw00t, want one more buggy? :)10:45
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sledgeswhen the phone is about to rotate, lipstick screens' contents make a sudden jump, and only then rotate10:47
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kavurinodevel: the google plugin for now reads the oauth2 token from a file /tmp/access_token.txt and I manually populate this file10:49
kavurionce the token is filled into the access_token.txt, just send a dbus msg to start the sync10:49
sledgesthe dialler app now starts almost instantly, niice!10:52
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nodevelkavuri: sounds good, I'll try it. thanks11:04
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nodevelI found a small issue in the new settings - I have an e-mail account created. In the list of accounts, when I tap and hold on the account, it gets deleted, without any confirmation. Is this on purpose?11:35
w00tnodevel: sorrrrt of11:36
w00tin a "w00t is a lazy bastard" sort of way11:37
w00tnodevel: if you want to look at improving the accounts part of settings, that'd be absolutely awesome, i haven't had time to go back to it in a while11:37
nodevelI'll see what I'll be capable of after my exams. until then, I'm just srewing around :)11:39
nodevelI'd be glad to help then, though11:40
w00tok :)11:41
sledgesw00t, I want look into the 'jumpy lipstick when rotating' myself during the weekend11:42
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sledgesSage, I wiped Alt_OS, put latest available N950 image on that N9, switched ssu to latest:devel, did zypper ref and dup - no errors about gst-nokia-camera - why?11:53
Venemo_Sage: can you send us the pics from yesterday?11:53
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Sagesledges: N950/N9 is ok. Only n900 has errors11:55
SageVenemo_: haven't attached camera to my comp yet11:55
sledgesmy n9 had that error (also phako's)11:55
sledgesbut only when from old image11:55
sledgesi.e., many times zypper dupped11:55
sledgesinsted of fresh install11:55
Venemo_Sage: okay, please do send them when you attach it :)11:55
sledgesi just wanted to get my head around it11:57
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sledgesthe 0.20130411.1.NEMO must have fixed it then for n9/50 already12:00
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sledgeshmm, zypper dup from fresh image works better (battery icon is now not dead, and wifi icon also appears - as opposed to updating from old image)12:42
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grylast version just boots past the blue nemo screen into a black screen, I already waited about 4 minutes13:03
w00tgry: can you ssh?13:04
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Sagejust a headsup. Will start pushing nemo rnd devel to nemo rnd testing soon13:06
Sagewill cause lots of rebuilds13:06
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Sageupdating also mer release for testing at the same time13:06
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gryw00t, anything I can help it with over ssh?13:09
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w00tgry: look into the journalctl output13:15
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w00tgry: are you using nemo at devel level?13:17
gryit's a fresh flash, so think I'm using it at whatever the default is13:18
w00trun: ssu s13:18
w00tssu fl13:18
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w00tok, so uid 1000 is expected.. try scroll further up/down in journalctl (it's paged)13:20
w00tJan 01 02:00:08 localhost systemd[305]: Failed to open private bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/1000/dbus/user_bus_socket: No such file or directory <- I find that suspicious13:20
w00tsounds like the user session isn't starting properly13:20
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gryit doesn't really scroll, this is all I can see13:28
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faenilw00t, no implementation of QPlatformScreenBuffer... :/ nice13:42
w00tgry: what exactly are you running13:43
gryw00t: nemo-armv7hl-n950-0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1.tar.bz213:43
w00tgry: as in, command13:44
sledgesgry, have you rebooted at least once after populating Alt_OS (and running `sync`) with that?13:44
faenilsledges, no problems here after Nemo update13:45
sledgesfaenil, was just my badded NAND flash13:45
gryw00t, journalctl, and I try to scroll it, 'j', 'k', mouse scroll, etc13:45
sledgesfaenil, which image is your original system from?13:45
gryI can't see more lines13:45
faenilsledges, ahm, custom -next image13:46
gryI already tried rebooting13:46
w00tgry: arrow keys13:46
w00tit's paged just like less13:46
faenilsledges, mmm April maybe13:46
Venemo_faenil, w00t: speaking of the wayland thing isn't there some similar stuff implemented on the raspberry pi13:46
gryw00t, it doesn't react to up and down keys13:46
sledgesok, do battery/wifi icons work for you faenil ? (after zypper dup)13:46
sledges(and reboot)13:46
w00tgry: o.O13:46
faenilsledges, not wifi13:47
gryw00t, I resized terminal to a rather small size and it does react to scrolling mouse, but no more info other than what I already pasted13:47
faenildon't know about battery13:47
sledgesfaenil, plugging in cable should start animation13:47
gryer, or there probably is, oops13:47
faenilit's charged, so I can't see the diff13:47
sledgesbut probably battery is ok. does your wifi autoconnect on startup?13:47
faenilsledges, haven't checked, will check later13:48
grysledges, w00t:
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sledgesgry, you repeated the journalctl head output 5 times13:50
w00tgry: maybe a better alternative.. journalctl > foo.log, scp foo.log off and upload that13:50
sledges+1 :)13:50
faenilw00t, is the text still mirrored on wayland?13:50
faenil(and everything)13:50
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faenilalready read that13:51
faenilI don't want your repo, I want to play with the code :P13:51
w00tthen try it out and tell me if it's mirrored13:51
faenilwhat's the fun otherwise? :D13:51
faenilw00t, ok XD13:51
faenilmakes sense :P13:51
w00tVenemo_: not sure what you're meaning exactly? but yes you can use wayland on the pi13:51
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faenilw00t, is timed the stuff for alarms on Nemo?13:52
gryw00t, thanks,
specialfaenil: yes13:53
faenilalso, I want to kick special's butt :P13:53
faeniloh here he is :D13:53
faenilspecial, test lipstick next time before committing, please :D13:53
faenilremember, you committed some fixes few days ago13:54
faenilwhich caused bugs which were fixed yesterday13:54
faeniland you told me it's because you didn't test it :D13:54
specialnot sure what you're referring to13:54
specialall I've done on lipstick lately is on the qt5 branch13:54
faenilthe orientations related bugfixing13:54
faenilwhich cause the homescreen to be zoomed when in landscape13:55
faenilsledges, when I disconnected the usb cable, the wifi icon appeared13:55
w00tbugs happen, occasionally13:55
specialthat was an older set of changes to lockscreen13:55
specialand part of it was an existing bug13:56
faenilspecial, yeah I remember13:56
w00tit got fixed quickly enough (same day as sledges pointed it out, iirc?), so it's not too bad a response time13:56
faenilw00t, yeah, but you know, just a quick test :P13:56
sledgesyup, amazing turnover guys :)13:56
specialI probably didn't notice because my only nemo device right now is a nexus 7, and has no orientation :p13:56
faenilspecial, oh okay, then sorry ;)13:57
w00t(clearly you need to fix orientation on nexus.)13:57
faenilhave you seen new nexus713:57
w00tgry: oh, thanks13:57
faenilI'm looking forward to be able to getting that13:57
w00tlet me look13:57
faenilNexus4 HW and FullHD display13:57
specialsounds quite nice, yeah.13:57
w00tgry: can you remind me exactly what problem you're seeing? that it isn't booting to ui?13:58
gryyes, only to black screen13:58
specialat least some of the hybris work I've done for the current nexus7 will carry over to a new one13:59
specialshouldn't be too awfully difficult to get it going13:59
w00tgry: n950?13:59
w00tps aux | grep lipstick13:59
grynemo       364  0.0  3.8 107904 38832 ?        Ssl  02:00   0:02 /usr/bin/lipstick --systemd13:59
MerbotNemo bug 364 in File Manager "Only one filemanager instance should be started at the same time" [Normal,Released]
w00tgry: fb_update_mode doupdate14:00
w00t(run as root)14:00
gryit helped14:00
grygui appeared14:00
w00tgry: but you can't interact with it i guess14:02
* sledges is using nemo as his daily phone; let's see how fast I'll find the bug :) so far so good after very lengthy SMSs (>>160 chars) writing :)14:02
sledgesmaliit so smooth!!14:02
w00tsledges: you should add haptics to it ;)14:04
sledgesI know, you read my mind as I was texting someone :D14:04
sledgeswonder if nokia patented/will be angry of us replicating the typewriter effect14:04
sledges^ still the best mouth waterer, that i never met on any androidy world14:04
gryw00t, gui is okay and it works, I can press things14:05
w00tgry: that is very... strange14:06
w00tgry: there will be a large update going into testing repositories soon btw14:07
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w00tSage: were you able to generate any kind of changelog of that update btw?14:08
gryafter gui started, I lost my ssh connection14:08
w00t(would have been nice to send out a mail)14:08
gry"ssh: connect to host port 22: No route to host"14:08
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w00tgry: replug usb14:09
w00tif that doesn't work, open settings, open usb page14:09
gryit works14:09
gryssh is okay, but ping on phone says network is unreachable14:10
sledgesgry, are you connected to wifi?14:10
Sagew00t: I whouls be able to do that yes. Actually anyone can do it manually with repodiff command.14:10
w00tor done whatever black magic is needed to route network over usb14:10
sledgesif not, usb networking internet sharing is not set up by default14:11
w00t(seems to work all the time for me, yay)14:11
Sagew00t: now that we have the static releases.14:11
w00tSage: \o/14:11
Sagew00t: that is after I do the static release from testing that is14:11
gryno, computer is connected over wired internet, and I expect phone to connect to internet over usb14:11
w00tSage: but isn't it too late when you already merged?14:11
Sagediff would be on that level14:11
Sagenot on obs repos14:11
w00twhat repo did repodiff live in again? i can install and try it out14:12
sledgesgry, then you need to do the same thing you did to n90014:12
gryit says 'usb: developer mode in use' (I assume it's a correct mode for usb networking?)14:12
sledgesyes, but not for internet connection sharing14:12
Sagew00t: not sure if it lives in mer as it is part of yum. In my fedora it is installed ;)14:12
sledgesyour host needs to be able to do packet forwarding14:12
w00tSage: arrrgh :P14:12
w00tSage: so i want 0.20130426.0.1/ against 0.20130525.0.1/ or what?14:13
w00tno surely not14:13
w00tdates are too close...14:14
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w00thrm ok14:15
Sagew00t: well, the new thing is still missing14:15
w00tnew thing?14:15
Sageit takes a while, currently 4k packages in build queue in obs14:15
w00tah ;)14:15
Sageso during the weekend it will not happen instantly :D14:15
sledgesfirst bug on the day sledge used his nemo as daily phone:14:15
sledgessome lady calls me, and the whole office hears her :D14:16
grysledges, it was done to this same phone a few days earlier, I rebooted host at a point and updated phone with latest image and things broke again. I still have nothing but the wiki cheat-sheet and absence of proper understanding about how I can troubleshoot things14:16
sledgesno way to silence the speaker! :D14:16
w00tsledges: hrm. sounds like you're missing audio routing.. rpm -q voicecall-qt5-plugin-resource-policy14:17
gryI re-added iptables rules, replugged usb, it can ssh, but pinging says 'destination host unreachable'14:17
sledgesqt5 ?14:17
w00ter no14:17
w00tunless you're on testing, in which case, no14:17
gryotherwise I could of have tried to zypper ref and zypper up, see if it helps about the black screen issue, but now I'm just stuck at the networking thing again14:19
w00tI wish I could help there, but USB networking is a bit black magic to me..14:20
w00tgry: what host OS?14:20
gryxubuntu 12.0414:20
w00tthere is btw, don't know if that's useful14:20
sledgesgry was already here for her N90014:20
sledgesthe usb internet networking setup was nothing compared to darkest magic problem with the n900 phone itself14:21
gryfor n950, rather, it's just a host reboot and phone update that broke networking again14:21
sledgesit would mess up routing tables as if there was a ghost dhcp client failure14:21
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sledgesgry, forgot, so you don't have n900, two weeks ago you had n950 with that dreaded problem?14:22
grytwo weeks ago I had n950 for that problem, yes14:22
sledgesso, now since you flashed everything anew14:22
sledgesyou should setup your xubuntu to forward the packets14:22
sledges(ip_forward to /sys/...)14:22
sledges(and ip_tables bits)14:23
sledgesbasically continue as before14:23
sledgesas your hosts works fine14:23
sledges*PC host14:23
sledgesbut the phone was playing up two weeks ago14:23
sledgesso hopes that your phone will keep pinging uninterruptibly this time14:25
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gry here is some troubleshooting info14:26
sledges/sbin/route add default gw
sledgeson your phone ^14:27
gryit works. does it stick after phone reboot?14:28
gryhow do I set it to?14:28
sledgesip =
sledgesgateway =
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sledgesfaenil, for me wifi symbol shows up also without usb cable14:33
sledgesw00t, package voicecall-qt5-plugin-resource-policy is not installed14:37
w00tsledges: zypper search and make sure it's available14:38
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sledgesw00t, did that, installed it, rebooting (as before reboot was still the same behaviour)14:38
w00tyes, you'd need to kill voicecall-manager14:38
sledgesah :)14:39
sledgestoo late :)14:39
sledgesw00t, same problem14:39
grythanks, i am doing zypper ref & up and rebooting to check for black screen issue14:39
sledgesgry, so black screen issue is reproducible?14:40
sledgesgry, zypper dup is always a better option14:40
gryyes, I had it 3 times on the latest image, but now I'm doing zypper upgrade to check for it after that14:40
w00tand yes, zypper ref/zypper dup14:40
gryI see14:40
grywhat's the difference?14:40
w00tit may mention downgrades, that's perfectly ok, up won't do downgrades and due to the way we structure repositories and do builds that's how it should be14:41
w00tsledges: zypper search voicecall14:43
w00t& pastebin for me14:43
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w00twait what14:45
w00tnever mind14:45
w00tsledges: i'd probably suggest to clone voicecall, edit plugins/resource-policy-routing/src/ and define WANT_TRACE, build the qt5 spec, install, killall voicecall-manager and watch journal while you try reproduce14:47
sledgesw00t, sounds like a plan14:48
sledgeswill it spit out the trace?14:48
w00tshould appear in journalctl output then14:48
sledgesthe routing i meant14:48
w00tI hope so ;)14:48
w00tthere's other WANT_TRACE defines in other places in the source tree14:49
w00tso maybe just edit all of them at once14:49
w00tto get the max debug14:49
sledgescan I do this with mb14:50
sledgesdo i need freshest nemo target for that?14:51
w00tSage: ping14:51
w00tsledges: no special requirements :)14:51
sledgesawesome :)14:51
sledgesw00t, quick question: why is voicecall still called voicecall, but i will compile .spec for qt5, and there's another voicecall-qt5, and the policy also is qt5 &)14:52
w00tsledges: voicecall package now only contains the qt4 declarative plugin14:52
w00tthe daemon and all plugins are qt5-only14:52
sledgesyay \o/14:53
Sagew00t: pong14:54
grywhat does voiceall do?14:55
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sledgesgry, handles voice calls14:55
w00tSage: can you point me to where i'd find patterns to pull in random bits and pieces? wondering if a package is there14:55
w00tgry: it's the engine dealing with phone calls14:55
Sage this?14:55
Sagew00t: note branches14:55
w00tSage: probably it thanks14:55
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gryhow do I know whether the phone has a proper driver for cellular connectivity? I put a working sim card into it, it didn't say anything about it14:58
sledgesthere is an indicator next to the battery14:59
sledges4/5 bars signal strength, and the number is stands for the operator code14:59
gryit just shows a 'no sim card' icon..15:00
gry(an '/' on top of an icon of a sim card)15:00
w00tgry: check journalctl?15:00
grywill check once zypper up finishes15:00
w00t(journalctl -f will show you the end and any new messages, like tail -f)15:00
w00talso you can try to open the pin application (PIN Entry) to give it a kick15:01
grynothing in the journalctl when adding and removing the sim card; pin entry doesn't start and leaves this in journalctl:
w00timplying that the modem is on, no PIN required15:06
w00ttry calling it15:06
w00ti'd expect it to work15:06
w00tnot sure why the icon isn't working...15:06
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sledgesgry, worth trying another sim card, ril (radio interface layer, GSM/CMDA) throughout the world might be very fragmented15:16
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sledgesand driver dependent (that is, even when it works on harmattan)15:17
gryyes, I tried two sim cards, but I didn't try calling. I will try in a bit.15:18
gryboth of them had the icon unchanged.15:18
sledgeshummm, and both were coming from different carriers?15:18
sledgesw00t, howto "build the qt5 spec" ?15:21
sledgesah, you meant to write "voicecall-qt5", not "voicecall" ;) because there's no such file as plugins/resource-policy-routing/src/src.pro15:22
w00ti don't follow15:22
sledgesthere is plugins15:22
w00tyou have a git clone of voicecall.git right?15:23
sledgestaking my words back15:23
sledgesstill, howto "build the qt5 spec" ?15:23
w00tmb build -t <targetname> rpm/voicecall-qt5.spec15:23
sledgesmeans when package hits OBS15:23
sledgesrpm dir is removed15:23
sledgesi took tarball from here:
w00tyeah.. just use git :P15:24
w00tthen you can also directly submit changes if you find a fix :)15:24
sledgeswas too lazy to do commit hash matching :P15:24
sledgeslogical :}15:24
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sledgesneed to re-initialise nemo target :{15:26
sledgesor shall I just pull those packages in via sb2 .. zypper in ?15:27
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sledgeshow amazing, i'm using just a mer-target-armv7hl15:30
sledgesgotta love Mer & family :)15:30
sledgesmb starts pulling dependencies itself! problems solved \o/15:30
w00tsledges: easiest option is probably to grab yourself a nemo rootfs, but if you have the repos in that target, mb will offer to install dependencies15:31
sledgesfailed on qofono-qt5 and co :{15:31
sledges:} yup, will just re-exctract nemo rootfs15:31
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sledgeshmmm w00t mb: ... 4.6.4/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi/bits/os_defines.h:40:22: fatal error: features.h: No such file or directory15:58
w00tsledges: install glibc-devel15:58
sledgesjust did zypper dup on mer-sdk and ssu rnd:devel nemo-n950 target15:58
w00t(sb2 -t <target> -m sdk-install -R zypper in glibc-devel)15:58
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sledgesit is documented in , worth moving out also to #Example_of_building_one_of_Nemo.27s_RPM_packages16:00
sledgesnow onto: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.IQ7N7j: line 44: /usr/lib/rpm/meego/ No such file or directory16:00
w00ti'd say keep the target setup in one place16:01
w00tinstall meego-rpm-config16:01
* sledges had a nicely working target ages ago, they wouldn't even upgrade :D16:02
w00tupgrading should go ok now :)16:02
sledgesyes, the latest nemo upgraded like butter :)16:03
sledgesthanks w00t , meego-rpm-config did the trick, voicecall compiled!16:03
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faenilback o/16:05
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marxistvegan1hey folks...wondering if there is a build of the sailfish OS that we can install on the nokia n916:08
specialthe only sailfish image that has been released so far is the x86 emulator image.16:09
marxistvegan1special: oh bummer16:09
specialsome people have put that on x86 tablets, but there's nothing ARM yet.16:09
marxistvegan1special: any idea how we can get nemo mobile on, since the links in the instructions are now dead?16:09
specialwhich links?16:10
sledgesmarxistvegan1, link please16:10
marxistvegan1that does not load anymore16:10
marxistvegan1apparently all links are dead16:11
sledgesthat's because has been made defunct a week ago16:11
Venemo_that's because the meego build system has been taken down16:11
marxistvegan1so where do I get those files now?16:12
sledgesthat is16:18
sledgesno need for debugsource16:18
marxistvegan1sledges: ahh...any of you folks able to update the nemo install page to reflect that ?16:18
sledgesmarxistvegan1, we will definitely, many thanks for pointing this out16:18
sledgessee most of us have local copies, so forgot16:18
marxistvegan1sledges: no problem...i just got the nokia n9 last week so I am ready to hack the hell out of it16:18
marxistvegan1though ideally i would like to get debian running on this thing but that seems farther in the future16:19
* marxistvegan1 though he really wanted the n950 but could not find it16:20
sledgesyou will also need to substitute s/kernel-// and s/-n9// so names like this "/usr/share/kernel-moslo-n9/zImage-kernel-moslo-n9" become "/usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo" instead16:20
sledgesso you'll be our guinney pig if you don't mind - if all of the above works, will update the wiki straight away :)16:20
marxistvegan1sledges: I do not mind, only i do not have the time today to hack16:21
marxistvegan1i am moving tomorrow and just planning for next week really16:21
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sledgeswell, you're already on the Installing wiki page ;) all i ask is to go on with your effort :)16:21
marxistvegan1sledges: most certainly will16:22
marxistvegan1sledges: though i am confused a little with the persistent single boot by flashing the dual boot instructions16:22
marxistvegan1this to be done on the device or on my computer?16:22
sledgesmarxistvegan1, just updated wiki16:27
xavinuxsledges  hi how are you16:27
sledgesand tested - worked16:27
sledgeshi xavinux , not too bad, it's fryday ( w00t ! :D ) and yourself?16:28
xavinuxjaja yesit´sfriday! very well thnks16:28
sledgesmarxistvegan1, this is to be done on your computer, device switched of for now16:29
sledgesoff even16:29
xavinuxplaying with pyside on the nemo VM16:29
w00tsledges: how'd voicecall go btw16:29
marxistvegan1sledges: the fiasco image i am not able to get16:30
marxistvegan1when i run perl naviperl.pl16:30
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marxistvegan1i get "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at line 32."16:31
* marxistvegan1 uses the little time he has to see what he can debug16:31
sledgesw00t, xavinux, great fun! ;)16:34
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sledgesmarxistvegan1, im looking into it now16:37
xavinuxyes but  can´t configure network IP on the Nemo VM...I´ve looked in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts for the ifcfg file16:38
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xavinuxand creat it for eth0, but can´t make it connect so as to be able to update package and intall others :(16:40
sledgesxavinux, what does `route` command say?16:41
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marxistvegan1sledges: unfortunately i need to head out now, i will check the instructions on the page when i can get back to this16:44
w00tsledges: rpm -U --force --nodeps <rpm>16:44
xavinuxan ifconfig shows only loopback IP (
sledgesmarxistvegan1, just heads up: situation looks abit sad -- navifirm (perl and the one for windows) both can't connect to nokia servers16:45
sledgesbut im sure we'll find you a mirror at least for your firmware next time around :)16:45
xavinuxno gateway16:45
marxistvegan1sledges: lets hope we do :) thanks for updating the page and I will be back :)16:45
sledgesxavinux, add one :)16:45
sledgesthanks to you to marxistvegan1 , laters!16:46
marxistvegan1later :)16:46
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xavinuxI have added one, with IP, GATEAWAY and NETMASK16:47
sledgeseasier way:16:47
sledges/sbin/route add default gw (your pingable host's IP)16:47
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xavinuxno /etc/init.d/ nor service.... scripts for restarting service, how can I restart network interface after adding parameters?16:50
sledgestried to type-in "starting to call" "still ringing" and a"bout to pickup" :D16:50
sledgesxavinux, after route add default gw you should be able to ping an outside ip16:50
sledgestry google's dns server first: ping
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xavinuxtrying and adding them to the /etc/resolv.conf file....16:51
sledgesxavinux, first see if you can ping16:52
sledgesone step at a time ;)16:52
w00tsledges: can you zypper search pulse?16:53
w00tsledges: did you enable WANT_TRACE?16:55
w00tthere's not very much output there16:55
sledgesi did16:56
sledgesDEFINES += WANT_TRACE16:56
sledgesand then just re-ran mb16:56
w00tmm, since it's a define change, you may want to mb clean rpm/foo.spec and then re-build it16:56
sledgesyowzer :)16:57
w00tqmake isn't smart enough to know that a DEFINES change means you probably need to rebuild all the source16:57
sledgesi thought mb doesn't leave anything behind since it start to configure everything just like an obs16:57
w00tpart of the point of mb is that it avoids exactly that - you get incremental rebuilds16:58
w00tso if you change only one cpp, you only rebuild that one cpp16:58
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sledgesouch noobs error: i just installed voicecall-qt5-plugin-resource-policy17:00
sledgesand forgot about the rest voicecall-qt5-*17:00
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sledgesw00t, now the audio works fine17:02
w00tsledges: uhh :-D17:03
sledgesthat I have redeployed -all-: voicecall-qt5 -devel -plugin -ofono -pulseaudio -resource-policy17:03
sledgeseven speaker button works17:03
w00tuninstall pulseaudio and resource-policy, see which one fixed it17:03
w00ti'd not expect ofono to be related17:03
w00tvgrade: o/17:03
xavinuxhave create ifcfg-eth0 file with device name, ipaddr, netmask and gateway. Then add route add default gw IP but answer is "network unreachable"17:04
w00tvgrade: tried out the qt5 homescreen on rpi yet? :)17:04
vgradehey w00t , weekend means time for hacking17:04
vgradewhats new17:04
w00tnot for me.. i'm going away for a week's holiday early tomorrow17:04
sledgesxavinux, you need to figure out your networking setup within virtualbox17:04
sledgesis it NAT, bridged, etc17:04
w00t"holiday" ... in reality i'll be spending a week driving :-)17:04
w00tspecial: have i ever told you that you drive me crazy17:05
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Stskeepsjust put special behind the wheel and you'll have much more fun17:05
vgradew00t: enjoy17:05
* w00t should really ought to start packing17:05
specialStskeeps: well, I don't drive, so.. :>17:05
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* vgrade adds qt5 home on Pi to list17:06
vgradeanyone tried on n95017:06
xavinuxit´s on bridge mode, link is ok. But there is no need to restart network services?17:07
specialwe've had it on n950 and nexus7 at least17:07
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sledgesxavinux, then type "route" on your host - see what gateway you are using17:08
vgradespecial: ok17:09
xavinuxno route appears....17:10
sledgesxavinux, you got no route on your host PC? what OS is it and are you root? :)17:13
xavinuxno route on Nemo VM, and I´m login as root17:14
sledgeshost pc17:15
sledgesnot vm17:15
xavinuxwindows 717:16
xavinuxping to ok17:16
sledgeson windows cmd.exe17:17
sledgeswrite route print17:17
xavinuxipv4 route table is ok in DOS17:18
sledgesxavinux, sure, i just need it's gateway17:19
xavinux192.168.1.1 it´s in a private network17:20
sledgesi need to go now, but in a nutshell your host (win) should be able to ping your target (nemo)17:20
sledgesand viceversa17:20
sledgesafterwards, your target vm (nemo) should be able to ping outside world ( for instance)17:21
xavinuxshure ok, good afternoon17:22
sledgesyou might need to change between bridged adapter - to NAT17:22
xavinuxwill tell you waht was wrong when I solved it17:22
sledgesgood luck! :)17:23
* sledges home time17:23
sledgesw00t, special , where are you off to? :)17:23
specialnorth pole17:23
sledgescrikey that's cold17:23
special not really joking, either17:24
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sledgesyou fellows 8)17:24
sledgesnemo's lockscreen wallpaper will suit you there :D17:25
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Venemo_w00t: ping17:32
w00tVenemo_: pong17:33
Venemo_w00t: next year, I'll drag you here myself17:33
Venemo_w00t: we were wondering, how does this new git+obs thing work? does it use the same git repository where the development goes on?17:33
Venemo_so if I have my own fork, how do I make the obs build something from that?17:34
w00tyou don't need to17:34
w00tbuild it locally with mb217:34
Venemo_maybe I want my own obs repo or something17:35
w00t(no need to deal with tarballs or anything else anymore, and it deals with incremental builds)17:35
Venemo_can I do something like that?17:35
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w00tyou can, ask me (or special or someone with access) to set you up webhooks (and after a while we'll sort it out so you can DIY)17:36
Venemo_well, not at this moment, but it seems to be a good idea17:37
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Venemo_I mean, it sounds like a nice idea to have my own repo for the stuff17:46
Venemo_but I don't need it at this moment17:46
Venemo_w00t: we're interrogating aknight about wayland things and direct rendering things17:46
* w00t nods17:47
Venemo_he showed us his implementation of page flipping and stuff17:47
Venemo_he has a working implementation of QPlatformScreenPageFlipper17:48
Venemo_but he's not sure if that would work on the SGX chip17:48
Venemo_do you think it would, w00t?17:48
w00tassuming it's the one i've seen using QImage, with a bit of tinkering, it'll work partly for shm clients, but not at all for nonshm (i.e. anything qtquick2)17:50
Venemo_shm=shared memory17:50
Venemo_they told me17:50
Venemo_what does the ws stand for in wsegl?17:54
Stskeepswindow system17:55
Venemo_we gotta go to dinner17:56
Venemo_but we'll be back17:56
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marxistvegansledges: i have some more time to hack :)20:31
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marxistvegansledges: was their any luck in finding the DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin file on a mirror?20:32
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Sagedarn, still 1000 packages in queue20:57
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#346 waiting for review at
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Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#347 waiting for review at
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#348 Rejected promotion request21:19
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lbtSage: what is request 348 - and ffs don't look at it on obs :)21:53
lbtit's gettng the webui up to 2.1Gb and ooming21:54
Sageah :P21:55
Sageit is small creq ;)21:55
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#349 Rejected promotion request21:57
Sageoh ffs21:57
lbtSage: it's taken down cbe21:57
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Sagelbt: that sounds like a small bug in the webui or something22:03
lbtyeah - we're blocked from any kind of upgrade to obs due to sb2 patches22:04
Sageok, time to sleep and return to this at some point of time. during the weekend or next week22:06
lbtwell perl seems rather broken so no git in mer-tools atm22:07
lbtso ...22:07
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Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#350 waiting for review at
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sledgesfolks, where to download DFLxx_HARMATTAN*.bin images anymore from ?22:33
sledgesjuiceme, does ubiboot require that fiasco image too (like in )22:35
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