Friday, 2013-08-02

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sledgeSimHurrian, is not an error00:19
sledgeSimcan be ignored00:19
Hurrianah, alright.00:20
sledgeSimyou can always chuck some text in that file to get rid of error :)00:21
* sledgeSim gnite00:21
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NeeDforKillhi all07:40
Stskeepshewwo07:40
NeeDforKillpossible make ssh  connect from windows?07:41
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kulveNeeDforKill: check putty07:41
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NeeDforKillobs updates in devel,from github?07:46
Sfiet_KonstantinNeeDforKill: what do you mean ?07:47
Sfiet_Konstantintriggering the tar_git ?07:47
NeeDforKilli mean,i always monitor mer github07:48
NeeDforKillif i see last update 1 day or 5 hours07:49
NeeDforKillwhen i get this update on phone?07:49
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jake9xxNeeDforKill: use putty or (like I do : mobaXterm)07:54
Sfiet_KonstantinNeeDforKill: is it needed ?07:54
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is an RSS feed iirc07:54
Sfiet_Konstantinah na07:55
Sfiet_Konstantinno RSS feed :(07:55
NeeDforKillone q uestion07:55
NeeDforKillafter update07:55
NeeDforKillmy phone dialer broken and simcard indicator not working07:56
NeeDforKilland landscape orienatiton lock07:56
NeeDforKilland working only landscape orientation07:56
NeeDforKillif i reboot phone07:56
NeeDforKillvery early like 90% phone not load07:57
NeeDforKillalways black screen07:57
NeeDforKillif phone load,dialer broken,and simcard indikator07:57
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Sfiet_KonstantinNeeDforKill: which phone, which os07:58
Sfiet_Konstantinwhich version07:58
Sfiet_Konstantinand you know, it is normal, Nemo is not meant to be stable yet07:58
Sfiet_Konstantineven if there is effort towards that07:59
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NeeDforKillyeah,but sledges and sage say it's not normal07:59
NeeDforKillnow i download last version image08:00
Sfiet_KonstantinNeeDforKill: which phone08:00
NeeDforKilln908:00
Sfiet_Konstantinok08:00
NeeDforKilland add devel repository08:00
Sfiet_Konstantinhum08:00
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe that was not the best idea08:00
NeeDforKillnow i installing 341 package08:00
NeeDforKillSage say 100% after updating it's not normal if dial broken08:01
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NeeDforKillso like i say08:23
NeeDforKillnemo load, but dialer not working and simcard indikator broken08:23
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NeeDforKillSage08:26
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faenilo/08:32
faenilmorning08:32
NeeDforKillbad morning08:33
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faenilNeeDforKill, sup08:39
NeeDforKillsup08:40
NeeDforKillafter update my dialer and simcard indicator broken ((08:40
NeeDforKillwhen i tap on dialer it not load,signal indicator with cross ,reboot not helping08:41
faeniloh...08:42
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NeeDforKillpossible solution?08:44
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lbtso - nemo targets and nemo app building08:45
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lbtIf you look at this file: http://releases.merproject.org/sdk/targets.json08:45
lbtit contains some target names, urls and toolchains08:45
lbtthe new sailfish SDK *should* take that url as a 'Provider' in the update page08:46
lbtthen you should find you can add those targets to the SDK08:46
lbtthey're old crappy broken targets08:46
lbtbut the idea is that we can setup managed nemo ones08:46
faenilw00t, zypper ref and zypper dup this morning, it asked to update lipstick again (and all Qt packages) even though there hasn't been any new lipstick release...and all is fixed :)08:47
NeeDforKillwhat is this nemo next target?08:48
NeeDforKillnemo_next_target_armv7hl.tar.bz2   *08:48
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lbtNeeDforKill: old hacky stuff08:51
NeeDforKillit;s build?08:51
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NeeDforKillso with dialer and network indicator,no solution08:52
lbtNeeDforKill: it's not my area - things like this can take a long while to get an answer as you need a) someone who knows and b) them to be around and have time :)08:54
NeeDforKillyeah08:54
NeeDforKilland keyboard broken too,when press key it close08:58
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faenilNeeDforKill, is that nemo on n950?09:07
NeeDforKillon n909:07
faenilNeeDforKill, that is strange...09:07
NeeDforKillyeah09:08
NeeDforKillfor updating use guide from wiki, then reboot09:08
NeeDforKill340 package installing09:08
NeeDforKillthen  reboot, and dialer not working,network signal indicator with cross,keyboard closing when i tap on any symbol09:09
faenil:/09:11
faenilNeeDforKill, I think we have to accelerate the conversion to Wayland...because jolla is only supporting the Qt5 version of middleware at the moment, I think09:11
NeeDforKillyeah,sailfish good09:13
faenilNeeDforKill, we're moving Nemomobile to Wayland09:13
faenilNeeDforKill, we are porting nemo core apps to Qt5 at the moment, if you want to help ;)09:14
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NeeDforKillhow i can help if i can't code?09:17
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faenilNeeDforKill, mm09:18
lbtNeeDforKill: test, learn, update docs, help other users, file bugs, review bugs...09:19
NeeDforKillonly with testing or translate to russian :D09:19
NeeDforKillfaenil u done qmlcalc ))09:22
faenilNeeDforKill, I only did the port :) why?09:23
NeeDforKillso better i  wait new image09:25
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faenilNeeDforKill, don't know, try asking Jolla guys if they know about those problems09:26
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NeeDforKill_what a irc channel?09:27
faenil?09:27
faenilin this channel09:27
sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, nemo rnd:devel  is very unstable now09:28
NeeDforKill_i know09:28
sledgeSimplease switch to :testing: for phone use09:28
sledgeSimif you want to report bugs, use :devel: :)09:28
NeeDforKill_i little confused09:29
sledgeSimtell me09:29
NeeDforKill_when i say it for Sage last time09:29
NeeDforKill_he say it's not normal09:29
NeeDforKill_on n909:29
faenilsledgeSim, who said that was working on porting qmlmaps?09:29
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faenilor was it you?09:29
NeeDforKill_in devel repo voice calls not  broken after update09:29
sledgeSimno not me09:29
sledgeSimlocusf,09:29
sledgeSimdid09:29
faeniloh right09:29
locusfwuut09:30
locusfah qmlmaps09:30
NeeDforKill_so i hope ,when nemo get wayland , guys make new image09:30
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locusfnot right now, I need to reimport my old sailfish projects09:30
sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, there is a known issue with online-modem script needed to be launched manually09:30
NeeDforKill_can i load it?09:31
NeeDforKill_launch*09:32
sledgeSimgive me a sec09:32
sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69109:33
MerbotNemo bug 691 in .Other "ofono modem is not set Online anymore at boot (rnd/devel)" [Critical,New]09:33
NeeDforKill_ty need try it09:34
NeeDforKill_okay , have another bug with keyboard09:34
NeeDforKill_when tap on any symbol in keyboard it close09:34
sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, open to phone via ssh, and see what journalctl -f outputs09:35
sledgeSimwhen you press key09:35
NeeDforKill_kk need load linux on wm09:36
sledgeSimyou can use putty09:36
* sledgeSim closes one eye09:36
sledgeSimouch USB networking might not go in windows without drivers :p09:37
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NeeDforKill_y09:37
NeeDforKill_so network working but dial no09:37
NeeDforKill_dial soft*09:37
NeeDforKill_oh i mean Dialer09:37
sledgeSimdialler app?09:37
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NeeDforKill_y09:38
sledgeSimtry launching dialler from command line09:38
sledgeSimvoicecall09:38
sledgeSimin fingerterm09:38
sledgeSim(tab complee, it may be called voicecall-ui)09:38
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NeeDforKill_y09:40
NeeDforKill_i am like a true linux guy09:40
sledgeSim+109:41
NeeDforKill_wait 30 s ec09:42
faenilw00t, I'm starting to port qmlsettings, wish me luck or stop me now :D09:43
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faenil(nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings needs porting as well...)09:43
sledgeSimnemo-qml-plugin-calenar did not need any modifications though09:43
faenilwhat is Jolla using instead of nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings? it's one of the few things which haven't been ported yet09:44
sledgeSim(or hope im wrong :p)09:44
faenillol09:44
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NeeDforKill_journalctl -f outputs09:46
faenilwhat is Jolla using anyway? it's strange they're not using Nemo's plugin09:46
NeeDforKillFailed to add match 'outputs': Invalid argument09:47
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w00tfaenil: there's an internal fork of it which i never found the time to remove to date, and unfortunately development has continued on it10:06
phakohey10:06
faenilw00t, and it can't be shared with Nemo?10:06
NeeDforKill_so what do with keyboard?10:07
phakotrying to update, I'm running into conflicts about buteo...10:07
phako(yes, I haven't updated in a while)10:08
Morpog_PCfaenil, cutefox-qt5 should run on your wayland VM already, it lacks a UI though :(10:09
faenillacks a UI? :D isn't it the same project coderus is working on?10:10
faenilI'm getting confused with all this browser projects :D10:10
Morpog_PCsure, but his UI wasn't ported to Qt5, just a minimal UI there.10:11
faeniloh ok :)10:11
sledgeSim10:35 < sledgeSim> NeeDforKill_, open to phone via ssh, and see what `journalctl -f` outputs10:11
Morpog_PCwell cutefox = qmlmozbrowser for nemo10:11
w00tfaenil: it isn't cleanly seperated from our settings UI (the part I didn't get around to doing)10:11
faenilMorpog_PC, though minimal is better than nothing, until someone has time to work on it :)10:11
w00tfaenil: maybe skip settings for now, i'll see if i can (or i can find someone to) do it10:12
faenilw00t, I see :( but that's in the roadmap right?10:12
faenilw00t, ok ;)10:12
faenilw00t, any other advices for core apps which shouldn't be ported right now?10:12
w00tyou could take a look at dialer, it's probably in pretty good shape for it10:13
faenilalright, voicecall is already ported, only ui-reference needs porting, is that right?10:13
w00tyes10:14
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NeeDforKillhttp://pastebin.com/eUpg0uU310:32
NeeDforKilljournalctl -f` outputs done10:36
sledgeSimand now comes the killer question: w00t, Sage, should we still support x11 Nemo now?10:38
sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, did you trigger keyboard crash when journalctl -f was active?10:40
NeeDforKill_t10:40
NeeDforKill_y10:40
sledgeSimso nothing relevant got spat on output..10:40
sledgeSimhow does it crash?10:40
sledgeSimor does it just disappear?10:40
sledgeSimas if it was transparent and dismissed on any of its places10:41
sledgeSimquestion is, whether other controls beneath it got focus10:41
NeeDforKilli think most likely disappear10:41
NeeDforKillwhen i tap on any symbon on keyboard it hide10:41
NeeDforKillhttp://pastebin.com/4XAF5BiT10:42
sledgeSimit slide down10:42
sledgeSimso when you tap on input field again10:42
NeeDforKillit's when i click on symbol10:42
sledgeSimit pops back up?10:42
NeeDforKillyeah10:42
sledgeSimdoes a symbol preview icon show up?10:42
NeeDforKillyes10:42
sledgeSimok, so nothing in the logs then, is normal10:43
NeeDforKilloh no10:43
sledgeSimi.e. hard to find bug ;)10:43
NeeDforKillpreview icon not show10:43
sledgeSimbut does it animatedly hides?10:43
NeeDforKilly10:43
NeeDforKillwith animation10:43
NeeDforKillbut on place where keyboard10:44
NeeDforKilli got black part10:44
sledgeSim?10:44
sledgeSimyou just mentiond "symbols"10:45
NeeDforKillhow i can make screenshot10:45
sledgeSimyou get black after it hides?10:45
NeeDforKillyes10:45
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NeeDforKilli get black when it  hides10:45
sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, recipe for screenshot: gst-launch-0.10 ximagesrc num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! pngenc ! filesink location=screenshot.png10:46
sledgeSim(thanks Jonni ;))10:46
sledgeSimprepend DISPLAY=:0 when doing from ssh10:46
NeeDforKilland how i get screen on my pc &10:46
sledgeSimon host: scp nemo@n9-ip:screenshot.png .10:47
NeeDforKill_so first i need recipe for screenshot10:47
sledgeSim;)10:47
NeeDforKill_then on host: scp nemo@n9-ip:screenshot.png10:47
NeeDforKill_?10:47
sledgeSimyes10:47
NeeDforKillERROR: Pipeline doesn't want to pause. ERROR: from element /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstXImageSrc:ximagesrc0: Could not open X display for reading10:49
sledgeSim11:46 < sledgeSim> prepend DISPLAY=:0 when doing from ssh10:49
NeeDforKill_oh10:50
NeeDforKill_yeah10:50
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sledgeSim:010:50
sledgeSim:)10:50
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* sledgeSim always remember display number like that lol10:51
NeeDforKill_can't make screen10:52
NeeDforKill_keyboard comeback10:53
NeeDforKill_after 1 sec hide10:53
sledgeSimgotta be fast :)10:55
NetweaverNeeDforKill_: I was the one raising the need for the ofono online_modem script in the rnd/devel repos situation. But mine was on N900. Sage reported all fine on his N9. Funny you now have the same issue as me, also on a N9. I still suspect systemd user session problems (as per warnings I received 'zypper dup') but nobody here so far had time to look into the root cause of it, together with me10:56
NeeDforKill_((((10:57
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sledgeSimNeeDforKill_, have you tried the script?11:09
NeeDforKill_what a script?11:09
sledgeSimonline-modem11:10
NeeDforKill_yeah, now working dialler and network11:10
NeeDforKill_but not working keyboard messages11:10
NeeDforKill_keyboard and messages*11:10
sledgeSimok11:11
sledgeSimnot ok i mean11:11
sledgeSim:D11:11
sledgeSimwell, if you could manage to take scrrenshot and/or describe the problem11:11
sledgeSimfiling a but would be great!11:11
sledgeSimlol11:11
sledgeSima bug11:11
sledgeSim8D11:11
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faenilfiling a butt :)11:13
sledgeSimè :D11:13
sledgeSimfryday!11:13
faenil:)11:14
NeeDforKill_(((11:16
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Sfiet_Konstantinhey Venemo_ !11:19
Venemo_hi Sfiet_Konstantin11:20
Sfiet_Konstantinhow are you ?11:20
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sledgeSimqt5 porters: Qt5Organizer is in PkgConfigBR . Why do I still need to pull libdeclarative-organizer and qt5-declarative-pim-organizer in Requires?12:28
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w00tsledgeSim: because qml plugins are a runtime dependency, not a build-time one12:50
w00tand not automatically detected12:50
sledgeSimif we had Qt5Organizer pulling in all the rest where needed, would the world look a better place?12:51
sledgeSimI guess the answer is not, because build deps and runtime deps have clear separation..12:52
w00tno12:52
w00tplugins are packaged seperately, you pull in what you need12:52
w00tit makes for slight more complication when developing but a slimmer result12:52
sledgeSimok, thanks w00t12:52
w00tbtw, you'll have problems with qtorganizer, there's currently no mkcal backend12:53
w00t(for qt5)12:53
sledgeSim8(12:53
sledgeSimi must have not tested everything Why12:53
sledgeSimhttp://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/qmlcalendar-qt5_zps004a5ecf.png12:54
sledgeSims/ Why//12:54
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w00tdid you restart it after adding events?12:54
w00tthey won't be there anymore12:54
sledgeSimthat's my question: to what state should I port a qt5 app?12:54
sledgeSimdoes "launches and displays UI" ok?12:54
sledgeSimand the rest can be dealt later?12:54
w00twell, that's strictly speaking a port, so i'd say you've done your job12:54
w00tthe backend is a seperate bug12:55
w00t(it hasn't been ported yet)12:55
sledgeSimas I have how strange: qml/qmlcalendar/CalendarView.qml:   onEventsChanged: {12:55
sledgeSimCannot assign to non-existent property12:55
sledgeSim^ another problem12:55
sledgeSimwhich I had to remove (is better I comment it out and FIXME pre-comment instead ..)12:55
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sledgeSimno objections to that w00t for the time being?12:59
sledgeSimwill be clearer once I'll make a clean PR12:59
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#391 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/39112:59
w00tsledgeSim: i don't know the context offhand, push it in the PR I guess12:59
sledgeSimk13:00
sledgeSimw00t, would n9 benefit from this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQyNjI13:00
sledgeSim?13:00
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Stskeepsnop13:00
sledgeSimbeh, was worth a try ;)13:01
aknightthat's for systems with 2 or more graphics cards so they can share buffers13:01
sledgeSimhopes on vgrade+this_weekend ;)13:01
sledgeSimno pressure lol13:01
aknighte.g. render on the fast one and display on the slow one13:02
sledgeSimsmart13:02
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sledgeSimhttps://twitter.com/vgrade/status/363038160676073472 ;)13:03
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faenilaknight, that looks like ATI powerxpress13:22
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aknightfaenil: probably right. the guy in #wayland who was doing it said he was using an ati card13:24
faenilok :)13:24
aknightthe other option is nvidia optimus13:24
aknightgenerally speaking13:24
faenilyes13:24
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faenilnvidia optimus is muxless afaik13:25
faenilwhile first ATI tech was muxed13:25
faenilnow both ATI and nVidia offer muxed solutions13:25
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sledgeSimw00t, how did this creep in? - [qmlcalendar] Convert to git packaging ( https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=_service%3Atar_git%3Aqmlcalendar.changes&package=qmlcalendar&project=home%3Asledge%3Anemo%3Adevel&rev=98af4c20111b310419b2b6a55d025086 )14:24
sledgeSimi see it's a bug; happened to faenil as well: https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=_service%3Atar_git%3Aqmlcalc.changes&package=qmlcalc&project=home%3Afaenil&rev=66d7b3410d2999c9d73dcec15e46a15b14:25
sledgeSimand then crept on onto the main repo:  nemo:devel:apps > Packages > qmlcalc14:26
faenilyep, tar_git bug I guess14:26
sledgeSim+114:26
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sledgeSimspecial, will poke you too:14:31
sledgeSimhttps://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalendar/pull/514:31
sledgeSimcurrently it has blue window frame around: https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalendar/pull/514:31
sledgeSimwill makint it boostable it remove the frame? (i saw qmlcalc's boosted, and no blue frame)14:31
sledgeSimframe here: http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/qmlcalendar-qt5_zps004a5ecf.png14:32
faenilsledgeSim, you need an env var for that ;)14:35
faenilyou're running it from ssh right?14:35
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faenilsledgeSim, try running it by tapping on the icon, you'll see there's no blue frame :)14:39
sledgeSimtrying :D14:39
sledgeSimdoesnt listen to my clicks lol14:39
faenilsledgeSim, don't click too ofter, there's a bug in the compositor (jolla is working on it) you'll make it crash14:39
faeniloften*14:40
sledgeSimok14:40
sledgeSimit doesnt run from .desktop14:40
sledgeSimbits gone wrong in there14:40
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* sledgeSim checking fingerterm.desktop :P14:40
faenilyou forgot to change qtcomponents to qtcomponents-qt5?14:40
sledgeSimthanks faenil !14:40
sledgeSimnope14:40
sledgeSimwill find the prob soon :)14:40
sledgeSimwill be all about invokers and stuff14:41
faenilok ;)14:41
faenilyes, that's what I meant14:41
faenil--type=qtcomponents-qt514:41
faenilin the invoker command14:41
sledgeSimit is using single-instance14:41
sledgeSimlol14:41
faenilehehe14:41
faenildeprecated iirc14:41
sledgeSimbinary still there though14:42
sledgeSimwill try invoker14:42
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sledgeSimŽORKS!14:44
sledgeSim:D14:44
sledgeSimfaenil, ur da man lol14:44
faenilsledgeSim, lol :)14:44
sledgeSimfunny .desktop cmdline for fingerterm didnot wor kfor calendar14:44
sledgeSimbut qmlcalc's worked ;)14:44
sledgeSimfingerterm is odd one out lol14:44
faenilsledgeSim, remember that fingerterm is not QQ214:44
faenilthe one coming with wayland image is QtQuick114:45
faenilyou took a bad example :D14:45
sledgeSimvery :D14:45
faenil:)14:45
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sledgeSimfrom command line with only -platform wayland I get the app to show me the modal dialogues14:50
sledgeSimsuch as time picker14:51
sledgeSimfrom withing .desktop (invoker -- qtcomponents5 bit) - doesnt14:51
sledgeSimblimey it žorks now %)14:55
sledgeSimmust be some other pest leftover in .desktop which now i got rid of14:56
sledgeSimwonder which ones14:56
faenilsledgeSim, you don't need platform wayland if starting from icon14:56
faenilit's already set for all apps14:56
sledgeSimsure14:56
sledgeSimim doing it from cmdline14:57
faenilok14:57
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sledgeSimok all works now14:59
sledgeSimare we placing all aps under /usr/bin/ now faenil ?15:00
faenilsledgeSim, looks like that15:00
sledgeSimhummm15:00
faenildon't know exactly why15:00
sledgeSimi'll do that later :))15:00
faenilEGL_PLATFORM=wayland EGL_DRIVER=egl_gallium QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland QT_WAYLAND_DISABLE_WINDOWDECORATION=115:01
faeniluse those when running from ssh ;)15:01
sledgeSim8)15:01
sledgeSimim running from Alt+F2 for now btw15:01
faenilok15:01
sledgeSimquite crazy, as wayland tries to just draw on anywhere lol15:02
sledgeSimlots of fun :D15:02
faenilahhaha15:02
faenilyeah it's because the compositor uses eglfs, afaik15:02
sledgeSimwhen i ran with -platform=wayland-egl it all went titsup :))15:02
sledgeSimfor a laugh15:02
Hurriananyone up for easy hardware enablement on Android devices?15:03
sledgeSimeasy? :)15:03
sledgeSimi hope to get around this one this weekend, got all hw bits in place: http://blog.accuvantlabs.com/blog/jdryan/building-nexus-4-uart-debug-cable15:04
HurriansledgeSim: I've been playing around with the Android init system for some time15:04
zmcHurrian : Sure, I have a nexus4 here on my desk with a hardware uart serial cable15:04
sledgeSimzmc, you're one step ahead of me lol15:04
zmcHurrian : I've been working on compiling cyanogenmod from source to get libhybris in15:04
zmcI already have a booting kernel that I've compiled from the lge-msm sources15:04
sledgeSimzmc we got mer kernel for mako15:05
sledgeSimhave you tried it?15:05
Hurrianwell, libhybris is only really necessary for Adreno and Mali GPU devices15:05
zmcNope, I didn't know that existed.15:05
sledgeSimhttps://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-mako&project=home%3Adm8tbr15:05
sledgeSimdm8tbr's nice effort15:05
sledgeSimbut he didn't have uart cable15:05
sledgeSimthis kernel passes mer vaildation check15:05
zmcI've been wrestling with the retarded double init of the framebuffer that kills the fb console15:05
Hurrianon Tegra and SGX GPU devices, the Linux desktop's got nice drivers (for X11)15:06
faenilHurrian, for x11, ehehe :)15:06
sledgeSimHurrian, n4 ir Adreno15:06
sledgeSim*is15:06
zmcMy serial console is made up of an arduino, a old pair of headphones and some string. :)15:06
sledgeSimheh zmc and why didn't we hear from you earlier? ;)15:07
zmcI've been bouncing around between here, mer channels and sailfish channels.15:07
sledgeSimohk :)15:07
sledgeSimwell, nice to meet you lol15:07
zmcSame!15:07
Superpelicanhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQyNDU15:07
HurrianI've just booted Ubuntu Desktop ARM on a Tegra 2 tablet, works much, much better than Android, for me.15:07
zmcWhat's special about that kernel-android-msm-mako-3.4-jb-mr1.1 tree?15:08
sledgeSimdm8tbr just took it as a ref15:08
zmclooks like the same version I have compiling at first glance15:08
sledgeSimok good15:08
HurrianSwitching out /init on Android's initrd with one that functions similarly to Harmattan's "preinit" sets you free from Android ;)15:09
sledgeSimi bet ubuntu touch is doing that Hurrian :)15:09
sledgeSimi feel dm8tbr's spirit is around :D15:10
zmcI'm not to familiar with the way android boots and how all this needs to be shaped, but I'd be willing to sacrifice my nexus4 up for science.  I should be able to help with most things once we get to a userland.15:10
HurriansledgeSim: spent the afternoon tinkering, and porting ubiboot to Android.15:10
zmcmy biggest problem is that the android init kills my kernel almost instantly if I start screwing with kernel pararams15:10
zmcEspecially console or framebuffer related ones15:11
sledgeSimzmc, take mer n4 kernel, upload it with fastboot (non intrusive) and dedicate one partition to boot mer rootfs from15:11
Hurriankexec is totally hardware-dependent though, so for now, it boots OSes with chrooting init.15:11
dm8tbrsledgeSim: booo!15:11
sledgeSimim sure one partition can be sacrificed15:11
sledgeSimlike cache15:11
sledgeSimeven android's still alive then15:11
faenilffs, voicecall-ui-reference is missing all kind of Requires XD15:11
HurriansledgeSim: no booting from loopback files? :P15:12
sledgeSimdm8tbr, 8-O15:12
zmcI don't mind blowing away my android install.15:12
sledgeSimi do lol15:12
sledgeSimphone belongs to my workplace lol15:12
sledgeSimHurrian, never tried :)15:12
dm8tbrsledgeSim: the thing uses GPT, you can just repartition it15:12
sledgeSimand then bring it back to andy after?15:13
zmcDoes anyone have a prebuilt copy of the n4 kernel?  What I found on that url looks like a source tree (85m)15:14
sledgeSimzmc, try this url: https://build.merproject.org/package/binary?arch=armv8el&filename=kernel-adaptation-mako-3.4.0-1.3.6.armv7hl.rpm&package=kernel-adaptation-mako&project=home%3Adm8tbr&repository=latest_armv7hl15:14
sledgeSim:)15:14
HurriansledgeSim, all: http://goput.it/u7n.jpg15:14
sledgeSimthis soz http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/dm8tbr/latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/kernel-adaptation-mako-3.4.0-1.3.6.armv7hl.rpm15:14
sledgeSimehehey hacky nice Hurrian :)15:15
dm8tbrsledgeSim: I think that kernel needs to be 'signed' somehow though15:15
dm8tbrat least I think I saw something like that15:15
sledgeSimwe'll see what zmc magic uart cable says :)15:15
zmc*sigh* that's right, you guys use RPM's.  Got a copy of that's just straight up flashable?15:16
sledgeSimzmc, open rpm with gnome-open15:16
Hurriansaves me the trouble of booting into Android, typing in a command, and rebooting.15:16
sledgeSim(expects zmc to say: "*sigh* you guys are using gnome" :D)15:16
sledgeSimHurrian, and nemo will soon land next to those items ;P15:16
* dm8tbr uses midnight commander to unpack rpms15:16
zmcNo gnome here. My workstation is a sparc running mwm.15:16
zmcfine, I know how to cpio.15:16
* sledgeSim what dm8tbr said ^15:16
faenilHurrian, very nice115:16
faenilHurrian, very nice!15:16
sledgeSimyup, cpio ftw15:17
dm8tbrsorry, don't have that unpacked myself, and it will take longer to download unpack upload thant to cpio the rpm15:17
* sledgeSim woken up from sleep: rpm2cpio rpm | cpio -idv15:17
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sledgeSimin my previous workplace i didn't have root access on my redhat workstation lol15:18
sledgeSimguess how many those commands per day I used to execute :))15:18
zmcWhen that kernel comes down, should I just pack it in with the cm boot things and fastboot it in?15:19
dm8tbrI guess so15:20
faenilbbl people ;)15:20
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dm8tbrsorry, need to space out on the sofa for a bit, just came back from a long walk15:22
sledgeSimspace out with a lappy ;)15:22
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zmcCrash.  Same shit it does to me.15:27
zmclemme pastebin15:27
sledgeSimat least we'll know the output15:27
zmchttp://pastebin.com/sNhqiyTV15:27
sledgeSimok, to you too then15:28
zmcThat's the thing. Output is completely not helpful15:28
sledgeSimouch lol15:28
zmcYou get the kernel command line and then boom.  and sometimes not even that completely.15:28
zmcas soon as the kernel loads, I imagine one of the first things that's happening is that the initramfs puts up a splashscreen.15:28
sledgeSimno, first thing that's happening is [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu15:29
sledgeSimpls try loglevel=8 in your cmdline15:29
zmco0ka15:29
zmc[9380] cmdline: loglevel=8 console=ttyHSL0,115200,n8 androidboot.hardware=mako lpj=67677 uart_console=enable lcd_maker_id=15:31
zmcsame15:31
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sledgeSimcan you try its original kernel?15:32
zmcI'll boot mine which is based on the same version as the one you just gave me.15:32
sledgeSimhave you ever gotten any kernel to spit its output?15:33
zmcHow much output do you want :D15:34
zmcHere is the first bit from the kernel I compiled15:34
sledgeSimjust the fact that a kernel produces it15:34
sledgeSimso your one is spitting stuffs, and ours not ;)15:34
zmc[1150] Fastboot mode started15:35
zmc[1150] udc_start()15:35
zmc[1530] fastboot: processing commands15:35
zmc[4530] fastboot: download:0061e00015:35
zmc[4960] get_display_kcal = 0, 0, 0, x15:35
zmc[4960] booting linux @ 0x80208000, ramdisk @ 0x81800000 (360161)15:35
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zmcSorry... wrong mouse button.15:36
sledgeSimwhoops :))15:36
zmchttp://pastebin.com/9BrAn6F115:36
zmcThat's most likely the same kernel you guys are using with a different .config15:36
sledgeSimyess15:36
sledgeSimmy next question was to compare the two15:36
sledgeSim:)15:36
zmcwhenever I start trying to get fbconsole working, or any other kind of debug options I get the same behavior15:37
zmcan immediate crash.15:37
zmcthe only thing I can think of is some kind of wackyness in the initrd15:37
zmcI have the unpacked boot image if anyone wants to rummage15:37
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zmcDo you guys have a diff between the stock mako-defconfig and the .config that your kernel was compiled with?15:40
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sledgeSimhttps://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-mako.config&package=kernel-adaptation-mako&project=home%3Adm8tbr&rev=1c361325300a7b7342f730ddd3b28ae815:42
sledgeSimhaven't got stock .config15:42
zmcIs there a quick way I can just download that file as text so I can diff it?15:44
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sledgeSimhttps://api.merproject.org/public/source/home:dm8tbr/kernel-adaptation-mako/kernel-adaptation-mako.config?rev=1c361325300a7b7342f730ddd3b28ae8&15:44
sledgeSimor Ctrl+A Ctrl+C :)15:45
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sledgeSimit has FB console enabled15:46
sledgeSimso probably like yours worth disabling15:46
sledgeSimhow come the stock config hasn't got it15:46
sledgeSimah, fbconsole is for those who haven't got uart cable ofc15:46
sledgeSimso feel free to revert it15:47
zmcnot so many changes from mine.15:48
zmclocalversion is different15:49
sledgeSimcompare with stock15:49
sledgeSimyou should be able to rootcause it what stops console output15:49
sledgeSimand btw15:49
sledgeSimprobably it's not stopping console output15:49
sledgeSimit's just not booting altogether (?)15:49
zmcright now mine is the same as stock except one option that prevents it from compilng15:49
sledgeSimoption prevents compiling?15:50
zmcCONFIG_FRAME_WARN=1024 breaks it.  If I set that to 1048 everything is fine. and it boots.15:50
sledgeSimah :))15:50
zmcyou included CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS15:50
sledgeSimyup https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/blob/master/mer_verify_kernel_config#L13015:51
sledgeSim;)15:51
zmclet me try using your config minus the framebuffer things.  I know for a fact that enabling framebuffer anything will break it.15:51
sledgeSimgood15:51
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zmccompiling...15:55
* sledgeSim fingers cross(compile)d15:55
zmclol15:55
zmcbuilt16:00
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zmcruns fine.16:01
sledgeSimbuild time = 15:55:03 - 16:00:37 :D16:01
sledgeSimgood(!)16:01
sledgeSimso now you have a mer kernel on n416:01
zmcI'm sitting at my enter pasword to decrypt stoage prompt.16:01
sledgeSimneed to modify cmdline to boot from a ext partition16:02
zmcWell it's still very much an android kernel imho, incl. screwy drivers and binder IPC and the whole lot16:02
sledgeSimwhere mer armv7hl rootfs sits16:02
sledgeSimzmc, i think those google patches will just sit there unused16:02
sledgeSimbut hope for pm to still kick in16:02
sledgeSimworry about that during userland porting stage ;)16:03
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zmcDoes mer use an initramfs?16:03
sledgeSimnope afaik16:03
sledgeSimcan always do though16:03
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zmcimo, the easiest route would be making a new fastbootable initramfs.  Then later I'll just flash that to the boot partition.16:04
zmcthen from the initramfs, we can get all creative.16:04
sledgeSimyea since fastboot can pass initramfs ?16:05
zmcusb-ether->vpn->nfsroot anyone :D16:05
sledgeSimzmc, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Make_your_own_target16:05
zmcyea, That's how I'm booting now.  I make the kernel, then mix the zimage in with a cyanogenmod initrd to get a boot.img, then fastboot boot myboot.img16:05
sledgeSimyou can start with mer-core-armv7hl-base.ks flavour16:06
sledgeSimthen comes xorg-basic-qmlviewer16:06
sledgeSimand connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer for brave ones16:06
zmcI do have a copy of the mersdk here, but it looks like a bag of rocks to me.  I have no clue how to use it.16:06
sledgeSimjust16:07
sledgeSimsdk enter16:07
sledgeSimcd /tmp16:07
sledgeSimsudo zypper install mer-kickstarter mer-kickstarter-configs16:07
sledgeSimmer-kickstarter -c /usr/share/kickstarter-configs/mer-reference-images/00reference.yaml -e /usr/share/kickstarter-configs/mer-reference-images/16:07
zmchmm looking to see where I put the sdk :D16:09
sledgeSim:))16:09
sledgeSimfind -name mer-sdk-chroot16:09
zmcAhh found it. It's in a vm in my corporate server that has a little more horsepower. :D16:10
sledgeSim;)16:10
zmcokay, just ran mer-kickstarted16:11
zmcs/ted/ter/16:12
zmcthe coorect arch for the n4 is armv7el?16:12
zmchl?16:12
sledgeSimhl16:12
zmcsudo mic create fs mer-target-armv7hl.ks -o /parentroot/srv/mer/targets --pkgmgr=zypp --arch=armv7hl --tokenmap=MER_RELEASE:latest16:13
zmcshit. Sorry16:13
zmcwell that command is running :D16:13
zmchmm this is going to be interesting.  My vm needs more drivespace. Fixing.16:14
zmcOkay. Running mic create again with more drivespace. :D16:20
sledgeSimzmc, don'ŧ run target16:20
sledgeSimrun mer-core-armv7hl-base.ks16:20
sledgeSimand output somewhere more reasonable: /parentroot/srv/mer/targets16:20
sledgeSimother than ^16:20
sledgeSimjust pointers for the future :)16:21
sledgeSimi wonder what are size limitations for initramfs16:21
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sledgeSimand fastboot16:22
sledgeSimas it places all in ram16:22
sledgeSimand for example mer-target-armv7hl is 568M16:22
sledgeSim(after some packages installed though)16:22
sledgeSimlet's see how big mer-core-armv7hl-base.ks gets16:22
zmcMerSDK bash-3.2$ ls -lah mer-core-armv7l-base.ks16:24
zmc-rw-rw-r-- 1 zmc zmc 870 Aug  2 16:11 mer-core-armv7l-base.ks16:24
zmcthat doesn't sound right16:24
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sledgeSimnot ks16:24
sledgeSimlol soz16:24
sledgeSimthe end product16:24
sledgeSim*gets ;P16:24
zmcsudo du -hs mer-target-armv7hl16:25
zmc390M    mer-target-armv7hl16:25
zmcHypothetically that fits in ram in the N4.16:25
sledgeSimerm you'll want to `sudo du -hs mer-core-armv7hl-base`16:25
sledgeSimwish mic could create initrds ;)16:26
zmcHmm Maybe I did it wrong. I don't have one of those16:26
sledgeSimsudo mic create fs mer-core-armv7hl-base.ks -o /someplace_nice/mer-images/ --pkgmgr=zypp --arch=armv7hl --tokenmap=MER_RELEASE:latest16:26
sledgeSimno worries, should last only a minute, all cached now16:26
zmcMerSDK bash-3.2$ sudo du -hs mer-core-armv7hl-base16:29
zmc252M    mer-core-armv7hl-base16:29
sledgeSim\o/16:29
sledgeSimnow let's munch it all in :D16:29
zmcSo I can just cram that in the initramfs and hope for the best?16:30
sledgeSimyes, for both of your points :D16:30
zmcOk.  I just need to get it down to my house.16:30
sledgeSimask a postman16:33
zmcon its way. be back in a bit.16:33
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faenilback :)16:39
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sledgeSimw00t, worth spending time for me from scratch, or you'll backport it from silica soon? local theme provider: 18:44 < w00t__> there's some fixes in silica i need to push back, but it's still going to be dumb until it walks the inheritance chain properly instead of hardcoding directories16:45
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vgradeevening17:08
sledgeSimgreetings17:09
faenilvgrade, o/17:10
faenilawesome, I tap on icon and journalctl doesn't log anything, app doesn't start17:11
faenilthis is the best that can happen xD17:11
vgradefaenil: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image17:13
vgradeok to use these?17:13
faenilvgrade, I wrote that yesterday17:13
faenilI made a repo with the ks files as well, grab those and build ;)17:14
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faenilvgrade, are you building?17:19
zmcokay. Fastbooting the 85mb initramfs did work. and the kernel did live. but it crashed17:19
sledgeSim85?17:19
zmcsomewhere around [   11.072852] ALSA device list:17:19
vgradefaenil: thanks. I've not had much time recently so this might be a good starting point17:19
faenilvgrade, ok, let me know if you have anything to say about the tutorial/image ;)17:20
vgradefaenil: need to get SDK installed first though17:20
vgradefaenil: sure no probs17:20
faenilit's covered ;) (with links :P)17:20
faenilok17:20
sledgeSimvgrade, when you'll go arm: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland17:20
zmcDoes that image try to do anything with the mmcblk devices that you know of?17:21
sledgeSimno, should be transparent17:21
sledgeSimermmmmmm but it does go through systemd17:21
sledgeSimdo init=/bin/sh instead in cmdline first17:21
zmcYea, here we go17:22
zmc[   11.172409] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)17:22
vgradesledgeSim: cheers, I've had that up on my n95017:22
sledgeSimgood stuff vgrade :)17:22
sledgeSimstabilising wayland on n9(50) i see major hurdle17:22
vgradesledgeSim: what you working in17:22
vgradeon17:23
sledgeSimporting qt5 apps atm, and pondering over local theme provided issue on wayland17:23
sledgeSimbut need to solder my n9 first to go hw wayland..17:23
zmc[   11.327697] wcnss_8960: crash shutdown : 017:23
sledgeSimzmc, init=/bin/sh ?17:23
zmcyea17:24
sledgeSimkernel should know how to initrd17:24
vgradesledgeSim: good. apps is where effort is needed17:24
sledgeSimref cyanogen mod for that17:24
zmcI think that was the watchdog from an earlier crash.17:24
zmc[   10.954677] VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block(0,0): error617:24
zmc[   10.961269] Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions17:24
zmcthere17:24
sledgeSimvgrade, what are you thinking looking into?17:24
vgradetake faenil work and get that onto Pi/pengpod17:25
gryhm. should it be safe or uzeful to zypper install wayland on nemo ? just realized it is in repos but not installed17:25
sledgeSimoh ok17:25
sledgeSimgry if you want to loose any nemo functionality, yes :)17:26
sledgeSimand help transitioning to wayland that is ;)17:26
zmcI'll try root=initramfs17:26
sledgeSimsounds like that is a lesser can of worms vgrade :)17:26
grynot sure I got the idea in full, what does it break?17:27
sledgeSimwonder what are the prospects of n9(50) good way-land17:27
vgradesledgeSim: don't have the app skills to effectivly contribute17:27
sledgeSimvgrade, i mean, pi/pengpod vs n9xx17:27
zmcdoesn't like root=initramfs17:27
sledgeSimzmc, how does cm do it?17:28
sledgeSimgry, well, pretty much everything17:28
sledgeSimgry, is a tabula rasa situation17:28
gryah17:28
zmcno clue, it's some command line kung foo. Lemme see if there are any options hardcoded in the kernel config17:28
sledgeSimbut inevitable17:28
faenilany idea how I can debug this problem? the app starts from ssh with the same invoker comman17:29
faenilbut doesn't start from launcher17:29
faeniland nothing is written to journalctl17:29
zmchmm nope.  The strange thing is that the commandline that the kernel runs, and the one I specify are not the same.  Maybe something in the bootloader17:29
sledgeSimfaenil, copy qmlcalc.desktop, replace /usr/bin/qmlcalc with your path binary , and retry17:29
vgradefaenil: environment17:29
faenilsledgeSim, done, didn't help17:30
sledgeSimzmc, so all your cmdline alterations had been ignored?17:30
faenilvgrade, I think I'm using the same env vars17:30
faenilI hear the fan spinning, but nothing happens, and no log :/17:31
sledgeSimfaenil, try hack like this: meego-terminal.desktop:Exec=sh -c "M_USE_SHOW_CURSOR=1 /usr/bin/meego-terminal"17:31
sledgeSimpunch in all your env vars17:31
zmcYea, there is no root option passed to the kernel in cm. Only  androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.baeband=mdm and  androidboot.hardware=mako17:34
sledgeSimok so it's taking defaults17:34
sledgeSimyou can figure all from [    0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyHSL0,115200,n8 androidboot.hardware=mako lpj=67677 uart_console=enable lcd_maker_id=primary lge.hreset=off lge.reset=mode_reset gpt=enable lge.kcal=0|0|0|x lge.rev=rev_11 mdm_force_dump_enabled androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.serialno=0065392399cab766 androidboot.bootloader=MAKOZ10o androidboot.baseband=mdm bootreason=reboot17:34
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sledgeSimbut even this one's missing17:34
sledgeSimso defaults from within kernel code, blimey17:34
sledgeSimif .configs not differ, should work the same17:35
zmcI'm trying ripping out androidboot17:35
faenilsledgeSim, nothing17:35
faenilthis is just strange....argh17:35
sledgeSimadd -platform wayland17:35
sledgeSimexplicitly17:35
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sledgeSimfor a laugh..17:35
sledgeSimwhat app?17:35
faenilvoicecall-ui-reference17:35
sledgeSimyowzer :)17:35
zmchmm same behavior17:37
faenildo I have to reboot when I change the .desktop? :/17:37
sledgeSimnope17:37
faenilthen why did I change it to qmlcalc command and it didn't even launch qmlcalc? :D17:37
sledgeSimsome other pests around crept in; after reboot does? ;)17:38
faenilnope17:38
sledgeSimwell then17:38
faenilsledgeSim, LOL if I put voicecall-ui-reference command in qmlcalc.desktop it runs  xD17:40
sledgeSim:S17:40
faenilthen it must be some systemd service which is not starting17:40
sledgeSim:D17:40
sledgeSimwhat is voicecall's .desktop name?17:41
faenilvoicecall-ui17:41
zmcthis is crazy and not getting me anywhere. I'm backing up some things and I'm going to just flash this shit to the emmc.17:41
zmcDo you know what partition the rootfs lives in normally in android?17:41
sledgeSimzmc, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34141701&postcount=117:42
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sledgeSimyou can choose any partition i guess17:45
sledgeSimuserdata looks most appealing :)17:45
sledgeSimand still have your andy alive fwiw lol17:45
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* sledgeSim hometime, see you at home ;D17:52
faenilrunning the same freaking invoker command from fingerterm starts the app correctly17:53
vgradefaenil: this rings a bell to me when I had slatekit and mozbowser loading from lipstick-home.17:56
faenilvgrade, what was your experience?17:56
vgradefaenil: slept since so a bit hazy17:56
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faenilvgrade, but you had the same problem?17:57
vgradebut remenber copying a working .desktop and adding the app I wanted to launch17:57
vgradeyes, sounds similar17:57
vgradewill comment more once I have the VM up17:58
faenilok17:59
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faenilbye bye people, see you tomorrow ;)18:09
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sledgeSimback20:23
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sledgeSimtime to solder n9..20:32
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rcgsledgeSim, soldering n9?21:04
rcgsounds like fun :)21:04
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sledgeSimit is :)21:16
sledgeSimhopefully it will fix it21:16
sledgeSimusb port replacement21:16
rcgaye21:21
rcgare you using the standard usb soldering pads or the bigger test pads?21:21
sledgeSimstandard21:32
sledgeSimvery micro business lol21:32
rcgyay21:32
rcgi'll keep my fingers crossed21:32
sledgeSimthanks :)21:36
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sledgeSimwell it works-ish :)22:33
sledgeSimbut LCD doesnt turn on22:33
sledgeSimwhat was unexpected22:33
sledgeSimoh hang on22:34
sledgeSimLCD works too!22:34
sledgeSimflaky :)22:34
sledgeSimthats expected however lol22:35
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sledgeSimhar\]22:44
sledgeSimharmattan is back!22:45
sledgeSimhad a soft reset however, but all data intact22:45
sledgeSimhave to tilt usb plug to make contact though lol22:45
sledgeSimneed to go to Maplin's tomorrow to buy a solder sucker :)22:46
sledgeSiminteresting, sot reset got rid of nag warranty screen22:48
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LjLbummer, Nemo gives me some kind of kernel panic after installing it on my N900's SD card23:24
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