Thursday, 2013-08-29

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locusfseems that many sdk issues I've been experiencing are due to dirty ~/rpmbuild10:12
Stskeepsmb clean is useful10:12
locusfah didn't know about that10:12
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faenilso, we're stuck with maliit with freaking 3009 egl error10:16
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chriadamlocusf: changes to .qml/.js files aren't picked up by default by mb.  so mb clean between mb build is usually necessary unless you are only making .cpp changes.10:23
sledgesgood to know10:23
sledgesthanks10:23
locusfchriadam: ok good to know10:24
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rozhkovfaenil: mustache should be dropped from network settings (i still feel shame for that)11:00
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faenilrozhkov, ah ok :)11:41
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locusfis there a known issue where lipstick-colorful-home only has one column of icons?12:14
sledgesnever seen12:15
sledgesmaybe WxH size at fault?12:15
faenillocusf, ehehe :) that's a nice one as well12:16
faenilonly happens after lipstick is restarted because of Maliit timing out12:17
locusffaenil: oh ok you knew about that12:18
faenillocusf, yes, it's not like that at boot12:18
locusffaenil: yeah12:18
faenilthen after 90seconds or so maliit times out12:18
faenilso lipstick.service is restarted because of dependencies not working12:18
faeniland it keeps looping like that12:19
locusfit doesn't for me, this happens only when lipstick is restarted12:19
locusfok12:19
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faenilmaliit tries to start, times out, lipstick is closed and restarted12:19
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faenilthat's the current mood :)12:20
faenilI was wondering if aknight knew anything about maliit issue12:21
faenilI tried asking pvuorela as well, he fixed that on x11 with https://github.com/maliit/framework/commit/39baf7492b4dcf351d6db517858f1250df27df1112:21
* aknight knows very little about maliit12:21
faenilaknight, egl 3009 on n9/n95012:21
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aknightfaenil: no idea off the top12:23
locusfthe egl 3009 is a warning12:24
faenillocusf, which creates all the rest12:24
locusffaenil: yeah12:24
locusfAug 29 11:55:12 localhost maliit-server[671]: Maximum number of attributes on this hardware is 0.12:25
locusfthats odd12:25
faenilthat's because of 3009 imho12:25
faenilit can't get info from the driver12:25
faenilso it says that max attrributes is 012:25
faenilwhich is obviously false (imho)12:26
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locusfhmm self-built maliit crashes eg. qmlmessages and when in app swithcer it displays the keyboard as the app card13:13
locusfinteresting13:13
mikhasgot a bt, locusf?13:13
locusfmikhas: ?13:13
mikhasand self-built == from git?13:13
mikhasbacktrace13:13
locusfno backtrace I'm afraid13:14
locusfand yes from git13:14
mikhasbummer13:14
locusfhttps://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework13:14
mikhasright, main problem is that SailfishOS + Nemo still uses 0.80 branch13:14
mikhasah13:14
faenilmikhas, oh you know more about maliit? :D13:14
mikhashm yes?13:15
faenil\o/13:15
mikhassome would say that I am the maintainer, albeit a bit inactive *ahem*13:15
locusffantastic13:15
mikhashm, is there a nice way on github to diff two repos?13:15
faenilawesome13:16
mikhase.g., https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework vs. https://github.com/maliit/framework13:16
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faenildon't know :13:16
faenil:/13:16
faenilmikhas, don't know if you read the backlog, we have egl 3009 on Nemo wayland13:16
* mikhas does not read backlogs13:17
mikhasI saw something on twitter the other day, yeah.13:17
faenillocusf, I think you have the log on pastebin?13:18
locusffaenil: yes13:19
locusfhttp://pastie.org/828012913:19
locusftheres the whole error13:19
locusfhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ddw36arnzlney8m/20130829_161730-1.jpg13:20
locusfand thats the new situation13:20
locusffaenil: I'll try and update maliit to current git HEAD and retest13:21
faenillocusf, but that's when you kill lipstick?13:21
faenilI don't see maliit13:21
faenilthe one you have is a font issue imho13:22
locusffaenil: thats not when I kill lipstick13:23
locusfthats when I'm trying to write something with maliit (the pastebin)13:23
faenillocusf, on n950 nothing shows, even if the physical kbd is closed13:23
faenilbut that could be another bug about n950...13:23
faenilbut it's yet more difficult for me to test it :/13:23
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faenilI didn't know it showed something on n913:24
locusffaenil: it shows now as I manually compiled maliit13:25
faenillocusf, as ok, so the default one doesn't show13:25
locusfyes13:25
locusfbut the keyboard is shown in app swither13:26
locusf*switcher13:26
locusfno in the actual app itself13:26
faenilok13:26
faenilI think not even in switcher here, but I have to test13:26
faenilbut strange that it works if you compile it yourself...it should be the same binary :/13:26
locusffaenil: do you want me to upload the packages for you to test?13:26
faenilok, will test it later ;)13:26
locusffaenil:13:29
locusfhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/0qm4ktmliu6lcnr/maliit.tar.bz213:29
faenilgetting maliit to work would stabilize lipstick at least13:30
faenillocusf, does it also time out in your case? maliit I mean13:31
faenilwe have same images now, so it should...13:32
faenilit's the reason why lipstick is restarted13:32
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locusfwell I have yet to see any timeouts in the log13:36
locusfit just crashes in my case instead of timing out13:37
faenillocusf, what do you see in journalctl when lipstick restarts13:38
faenillook for the time gap13:38
locusfI haven't had lipstick restarts yet :/13:41
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faenilsince you used the self-built package you mean13:42
locusfyeah13:43
faenilok13:44
faenilso you used same spec and same repo OBS is using?13:44
locusfyes13:46
faenil:/13:46
faenilwhich packages did you replace?13:47
faenilonly framework-wayland?13:47
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locusfand inputcontext13:50
locusfthats all13:50
faenillocusf, if you ran out of ideas, try making a dump of *clean* image with OBS maliit, and then uninstall and install the self-built13:50
faeniland see if there is any new file or config13:50
faenilwhich gets created maybe (if there were no dynamic files creations we could just compare the rpms)13:51
locusfok13:52
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faenillocusf, your inputcontext is 1.8Mb13:54
faenilthe OBS one is 253Kb13:54
faenilmaybe one is stripped and the other is not13:54
faenilor debug/release13:54
faenillocusf, Archive manager doesn't let me open your wayland rpm (worked with inputcontext)13:55
locusfhmm13:57
faenilmikhas, any input13:58
faenil?13:58
mikhashm?13:58
mikhasthere are two different Maliit input context, one that is shipped by Qt5, one that is shipped by Maliit13:59
mikhas=> if compiling from git, for the framework, you probably want to use "$ qmake CONFIG+=qt5-inputcontext" or such13:59
mikhasnot sure the nemo version already has that feature14:00
faenilmikhas, yes it does14:00
faenil%qmake5  \14:01
faenil    CONFIG+=enable-dbus-activation \14:01
faenil    CONFIG+=qt5-inputcontext \14:01
faenil    CONFIG+=lipstick \14:01
faenil    CONFIG+=noxcb14:01
faenilwhich is what OBS uses as well14:01
w00tmikhas: fyi, the qt5 IC is gone as of yesterday14:02
w00t(https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,63891)14:03
mikhasah14:03
mikhasyeah well, if we ever have an official Qt5 IC in the future I'd rather have Maliit as a Qt5 add-on14:04
faenilw00t, also, Nemo git is pointing to gitorious, which is not valid anymore14:04
mikhasw00t, coming to devdays?14:04
w00tmikhas: SF or berlin?14:04
mikhaseither?14:05
w00t:-)14:05
w00tI'm not sure yet, I hope to14:05
faenildevdays :Q____14:05
w00tat least berlin will be a bit tricky to manage as I need to travel around the same time14:05
w00tbut I'd prefer berlin as it's closer..14:05
mikhasmetoo14:05
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w00tfaenil: my guess is that pvuorela (or whoever touches the packaging next) gets the honor :)14:06
faenil:D14:06
faenilmikhas, did you attend DevDays in Munich?14:07
faenil2011 I think14:07
faenilor 201014:07
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mikhasI did14:14
mikhasthe last Munich dev days14:14
faenilmikhas, I am the guy who won the Kindle in the evening draw :D14:15
faenilyou probably won't even remember about the draw though :)14:15
mikhasI do remember the silly circus14:15
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faenilI was with mlong when the lady called my name from middle of the stairs14:16
faenil(she was halfway between the floors holding the mic)14:16
faenilgood days, when old Nokia sponsored people to attend :D14:18
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NeeDforKillfaenil hello14:42
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faenilNeeDforKill, hi14:42
NeeDforKillwhat's up?14:42
faenilgot to study :P14:46
NeeDforKillhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq_n1J5Jo6414:47
NeeDforKillRussian WWE so awesome :D14:48
faenillol14:49
NeeDforKilldat vodka :D14:49
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faenilgry, pin15:38
faenilping15:38
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faenilawesome, zypper dup and now it's all black15:48
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faeniln950 revived :)15:54
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faenilwow, lockscreen shows and maliit-server is being correctly activated via dbus \o/15:57
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locusffaenil: whaa?16:01
faenillocusf, I didn't say maliit works :D but the server starts at boot16:01
locusfaah16:01
locusffrom my binaries?16:02
faenilnope, just did zypper dup16:02
locusfhmm16:03
locusfRemoving ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl-0.1.3-5.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx ......................................................................................................................[done]16:03
locusfhmm16:03
locusfdid you have that?16:03
faenilhahah yeah I had to reinstall that16:05
faenilor maybe it wasn't that?16:05
faenilanyway, phone won't boot without that16:05
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faenilit's the wayland egl driver16:05
locusfargh16:05
locusfjust rebooted with that removed16:05
locusfsigh16:05
locusfreflashing time!16:06
faenilno wait16:06
faeniljust reinstall packages16:06
faenilwhy reflash16:06
faenilssh in16:06
locusfyou said phone won't boot without that16:06
faeniland reinstall16:06
faenilyeah well it won't show homescreen16:06
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faenilbut ssh and the rest still works16:06
locusfok16:07
locusfseems so16:07
faenilI don't know why it wanted to remove wsegl16:08
faenilit didn't happen here16:08
locusfok, strange16:08
faenilAug 29 16:09:01 localhost systemd-tmpfiles[505]: stat(/run/user/100000/state) failed: Permission denied16:12
faenilmm16:12
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faenilone step ahead16:17
faenilDEBUG: bool MIMPluginManagerPrivate::switchPlugin(const QString&, MAb16:17
faenilstractInputMethod*, const QString&) "nemo-keyboard.qml" could not find initiator16:17
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pvuorelafaenil: that's expected.16:20
faenilpvuorela, ok, though I have a black rectangle on bottom of my screen :D16:20
pvuorelahmh :)16:20
locusffaenil: what did you do?16:20
faenilbasically, first time it crashes with the egl error16:21
faenilthen if you wait for the server to start again while you are IN the app, it won't crash16:21
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faenilnow it shows a lot of Aug 29 16:19:52 localhost maliit-server[554]: DEBUG: Updating input method area to QRegion(size=1), bounds =...480)16:21
faenilwhich is expected16:22
faenilso the .qml error is the only bad thing I see here16:22
faeniland if pvuorela says that's expected...eheh :D bad luck for us16:22
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locusflol I guess yeah16:23
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faenilso, just rebooted16:25
faenilopen components gallery16:25
faenilhit multiline text16:26
faenilBOOM, maliit service entered failed state16:26
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locusfyep same for me16:27
faenilAug 29 16:27:45 localhost maliit-server[627]: WARNING: An inactive plugin is misbehaving - tried to show a window!16:28
locusfhmm can't revive lipstick now16:28
faenilyeah screen goes black16:28
faenilcan't reproduce the black small rectangle :(16:28
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faenillocusf, basically it's keeping the app switcher black16:29
faenilif you swipe out and scroll you can still see lipstick is working16:29
faenilbut I think maliit is trying to draw on the app switcher16:29
faenilat full screen16:29
faenilwhole black :D16:29
sledgesgdb ?16:29
* sledges baffled if that could help16:30
sledgesrun maliit without running lipstick?16:30
sledgesfor a test16:31
faenilstopping lipstick.service means stopping all services depending on it16:37
faenilbut I'll try16:37
faenilFATAL: EGL Error : Could not create the egl surface: error = 0x300316:38
faenilstarting it with same env as compositor...16:38
sledgesdid you trace which component the error originates from?16:39
faenilthis last one?16:39
sledgesyes16:39
sledgesor you managed to avoid it by re-launching mallit as you  said?16:40
faenilDEBUG: Creating Maliit input context16:40
faenilFATAL: EGL Error : Could not create the egl surface: error = 0x300316:40
faenilthis is with lipstickservice stopped16:40
faenilis it supposed to run on eglfs?16:41
sledgesthis i can't tell without looking, soz16:42
faenileh :P16:42
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sledgesso if you can make it draw something e.g. a blackbox at least (or like locusf managed to get its images on app switcher)16:46
faenilpvuorela, is this also normal? DEBUG: bool MIMPluginManagerPrivate::switchPlugin(const QString&, MA16:47
faenilbstractInputMethod*, const QString&) "libmaliit-keyboard-plugin.so" could not find initiator16:47
sledgesyou could try tracing where surfaces are selected in the code16:47
sledgesalso ask in #maliit they will drool for wayland (if they don't already)16:47
pvuorelafaenil: yes.16:47
faenilpvuorela, ok :/16:47
sledgesmight be compositor (lipstick's) problem which i fear most though16:48
pvuorelashould someday check out that initiator thing, not the first time it confuses people.16:48
pvuorelafaenil: hey and if you have maliit keyboard plugin installed, cannot necessarily recommend it at this point.16:49
faenilpvuorela, isn't that requires for vkb?16:49
pvuorelaor at least the last time i checked it had some problems. been fixing nemo keyboard plugin myself.16:50
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pvuorelaboth coming from the same repository.16:50
locusfmaliit-plugins-maliit-keyboard ?16:50
faenilyes16:50
faenilI thought that was a must have?16:50
pvuorelano.16:50
faenilinstead it's just the non-qml keyboard?16:50
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faenilor what is it?16:51
pvuorelayea.16:52
faenilah ok16:52
faenilscrew that then16:52
faenilanyway16:52
faenilI see it! \o/ o16:52
faenilon app switcher16:52
locusf?16:52
faenilbut it's on another window!16:52
locusfah like me16:52
pvuorelayay :)16:52
sledgesx)16:52
faenildon't know locusf I didn't read you saying it was on another window16:52
faenilI thought you could see it on your app16:52
faenilbut in app switcher16:53
sledges14:20 < locusf> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddw36arnzlney8m/20130829_161730-1.jpg16:53
faenilsledges, I've seen that16:53
locusfanother window hmm16:53
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faenillocusf, I don't understand from that picture...was yours in another window or was it on top of your app?16:54
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locusfI didn't test with another window16:54
locusfit basically killed the app and started the keyboard on top of it16:54
faenillocusf, in my case I can see both windows16:55
faenilone with the app, and the other with the keyboard16:55
faenilbut the keyboard is closed16:55
faenilI can see it closing in the appswitch while swiping out of the app16:55
locusfok16:56
sledgesit doesn't merge the two16:57
sledgesx11 must have had some flags for not to treat it as a new application16:57
sledgesx11 mcompositor16:57
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sledgesfaenil, means it doesnt kill your app?16:57
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faenildoesn't16:58
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faenilhere's a picture of what I see before the keyboard animates and goes away16:58
faenilhttps://twitter.com/faenil/status/37312745855361843216:58
sledgesthat explains it16:58
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locusfI had that once too :D16:58
sledgesif locus had his app still running, it would be identical16:58
faenilsledges, eh :P17:00
sledges;)17:01
faenilI'm sure pvuorela already has the solution! :D17:01
sledges8)17:01
locusfnow I had the same error as faenil17:02
locusfin the above pic17:02
faenillocusf, good :)17:03
locusfJan 01 00:03:30 localhost maliit-server[756]: WARNING: QSGContext::initialize: depth buffer support missing, expect rendering errors17:04
locusfJan 01 00:03:30 localhost maliit-server[756]: WARNING: QSGContext::initialize: stencil buffer support missing, expect rendering errors17:04
locusffaenil: do you see those?17:04
faenilyep17:04
faenilalso WWDrakey is saying they have similar maliit issues on their wayland VM17:06
WWDrakeyOhh yeah. A black screen consistently when Maliit should be jumping up.17:07
faenilin my VM maliit never comes up (as it should? doesn't it only come up if you have keyboard closed on n950)17:08
faenil?17:08
locusfsame here17:10
faenilok it's some wrong config in their VM17:11
WWDrakeyHmm, we're using our own homescreen, so that might cause the difference?17:11
WWDrakeyDidn't try it out with lipstick-colorful-home yet actually.17:11
faenildon't know :/17:13
faenilwe need a way to reproduce the double window keyboard :/17:14
faenillet's uninstall maliit-keyboard and reboot17:14
faenilwell, appeared first time now17:17
locusf?17:17
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faenillocusf, the double window17:35
rcgfaenil, how's the progress on the wayland nemo image?17:36
faenilmaliit didn't crash, just double window from first time (after a whole black screen)17:36
faenilrcg, issues with maliit17:36
rcglast thing i read was you fiddling with maliit17:36
faenilhttps://twitter.com/faenil/status/37312745855361843217:36
faenilyep17:36
rcghmm ic, this looks funky17:37
rcgdid you try to ask the guys in #maliit for help?17:37
rcgfaenil, i assume the screenshot shows the app switcher?17:40
rcgso maliit is treated as distinct window?17:41
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rcgwhereas it should behave as some sort of overlay for the currently active window, right?17:42
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faenilrcg, yep18:01
faenilhaven't tried on maliit yet, will do now ;)18:02
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faenilrcg, asked, but it seems everyone's idle there atm18:04
locusfwas just about to say see twitter :)18:06
faenil:)18:06
rcgfaenil, yeah, response times in there can be a "little longer" ;)18:07
faenil:)18:07
rcgiirc, i even got a question answered some days after i stated it :)18:07
rcgluckily, the backlog is not that crowded ;)18:07
faenileheh18:09
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qwazixfaenil, http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=46118:41
qwazixHurrian, Morpog_PC, ^^^18:42
qwazixlet's make more of these spec sheets18:42
faenilqwazix, love the glow *_*18:42
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qwazix:) I hope Hurrian doesn't object to it18:43
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faenilthough performance isn't exactly perfect at the moment ..18:44
faeniland I don't know if it will get any better :/18:44
qwazixfaenil, do you think I've included all that you need to make a button? I have a feeling I missed something18:44
qwazix(the images are on github)18:45
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qwazix:( about performance though18:45
faenilqwazix, I don't know about the button, I guess we will know once it will be implemented :D18:47
faenilI'd start now but I have the maliit issue going on, readin lipstick's code atm18:47
qwazix:nod:18:50
qwazixI'm going out for a while. Talk later.18:50
faenilok, let me know when you're back ;)18:50
faenilqwazix, oh also, we have to package opensans18:51
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NeeDforKillso keyboard fixed?18:56
faenilNeeDforKill, nope18:56
faenilNeeDforKill, https://twitter.com/faenil/status/37312745855361843218:58
NeeDforKill:D18:59
faenil:D18:59
NeeDforKilldat keyboard18:59
faenilyeah ahah18:59
NeeDforKilllocusf working on keyboard?19:00
locusfnope :)19:00
NeeDforKill:D19:00
faenilwe are both doing what we can :)19:00
locusfI wouldn't know what to do19:01
faenilme neither :D19:01
faenilbut let's see, we'll manage to fix this19:01
faenilnow that we have double window the fix isn't far19:01
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rcgfaenil, sorry for being abruptly afk, had to take care of the boy ;)19:07
faenilrcg, np :)19:07
rcgfaenil, could it be that this is an issue with the compositor?19:07
faenilyes19:07
rcgi.e., that it treats maliit as window instead of overlaying it19:07
rcgwhat compositor are you using?19:08
faenilw00t said we'll talk about that later19:08
rcgah cool19:08
faenilrcg, lipstick qml compositor19:08
rcgbecause this could be as simple as setting some window flags19:08
rcgor as complicated as setting some window flags, depending on the compositor and some other stuff :D19:09
faenilyeah :D19:09
rcgbtw. while you are on it, compositor-wise, just a little remark i stumbled upon lately in kde19:09
faenilbeware I'm reading the code of compositor for the first time now ;)19:10
rcgdunno how you plan to implement the lock screen, but it could be worthwhile to consider a solution for displaying the keyboard also on to of the lock screen19:10
faenilthe lockscreen is there already19:10
faenilit's all qml so I don't think that is a big problem :)19:11
rcgbackground: kde lock screen is implemented in a way such that it is the very highest layer. which, essentially, makes it impossible to show a keyboard there as the lock screen, by definition, covers everything else, which in turn makes it pretty much impossible to unlock via touch input19:11
rcgfaenil, yeah, i know, just talking compositor-wise about which layer to place on top of which19:12
faenilimpossible to unlock via touch input? why?19:12
rcgso in case the lock screen has a special layer it might be a good idea to consider another special layer on top of the lock screen layer19:12
faenilswipe up doesn't work?19:13
rcgfaenil, nah, am talking about a lock screen with password prompt19:13
faenilbut still19:13
rcgmight be overkill for nemo,19:13
faenilpassword prompt will be shown after you have swiped up19:13
rcgjust sharing the experience from kde19:13
faenilbb10 does it that way as well, you swipe and then keyboard appears19:14
rcgyeah, and nemo may behave differently19:14
faenilno keyboard on top of lockscreen19:14
rcgi see19:14
rcgmaybe that's a unique issue in kde :)19:14
faenilI don't think a keyboard on top of lockscreen would be a good idea, having the "swipe up" lockscreen19:14
rcgwell, just meant, "just in case"19:15
faenilyou swipe up, lockscreen disappears19:15
specialrcg: keep in mind that this is wayland, not X1119:15
rcgspecial, heh yeah, that may also be some part of the issue :)19:15
specialit's not window stacking like X11 does, the compositor is all QML and it decides what gets displayed where19:15
rcgah alright :)19:15
faenilrcg, :)19:15
rcgthat sounds much cooler19:15
specialit's literally as simple as showing/hiding and changing Z order for QML items19:15
faenilrcg, ^19:16
rcggreat :D19:16
faenilthat's what I meant with "it's all qml I don't see a big problem" :D19:16
rcgcool :D19:16
rcgthen just scratch what i just told :)19:16
faenilok ^_^19:16
faenilso on X11 even if you swipe up the lockscreen, you can't input on keyboard?19:17
faenil(in KDE)19:17
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faenilrcg, ^19:19
rcgfaenil, in the kde lock screen, there is no such thing as swipe up19:19
faenilok19:19
rcgthe lock screen, in the simplest case, simply displays a password input field19:20
faenilthen makes sense19:20
faenilI thought it was like gnome19:20
faenilnowadays19:20
faenilhaven't tried KDE for a while19:20
rcgwhich, well, given that the lock screen is the highest layer, even on-top of the virtual keyboard, makes it kinda impossible to log in via touch only19:20
faenilyes clearly19:21
rcgthere is a bug report about that and i even found a crude hack to outsmart that stacking logic but it's not that nice19:21
faenileheh19:21
NeeDforKillfaenil zypper take updates from github?19:21
rcgbut the kde guys said they work on it and have it on the agenda for the wayland move as well19:21
faenilNeeDforKill, no, it takes update from the OBS repositories19:22
specialNeeDforKill: the repositories are on OBS. Tags on github automatically trigger OBS builds19:22
locusffaenil: I enabled debug for lipstick19:22
faenilbut usually when you change something on git you tag and it triggers build on OBS, which updates repo19:22
faenillocusf, anything interesting?19:23
locusfhttp://pastie.org/8281132 <- this is when accessing keyboard19:23
faenillocusf, ok thanks19:24
faenilis there an env var for debug?19:24
locusfLIPSTICK_COMPOSITOR_DEBUG19:24
faenilok19:24
MSameerfaenil: please tell me that we have an N9 wayland image ;)19:26
faenilMSameer, of course we do!19:26
MSameeroh19:26
MSameeryay!19:26
faenilbut virtual keyboard isn't working yet :D19:26
MSameerwho cares :D19:26
faenil(apart from other issues :P)19:26
faenilwell, how do you use it on n9? :D19:26
MSameerof course you use it19:26
MSameerfor fixing vkb :P19:27
faenil\o/19:27
MSameeror at least trying19:27
faenil:)19:27
MSameerso does it not show up at all or does it show a black frame?19:27
faenilhttps://twitter.com/faenil/status/37312745855361843219:27
MSameernot bad :P19:28
locusfMSameer: would you like the image url?19:28
MSameerlocusf: yes please19:29
locusfhttp://t.co/GixfsB5Ng519:29
faenilotherwise I set up a git repo, if you want to build it yourself using the ks19:29
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MSameerno i am fine with the image19:30
MSameerthanks locusf19:30
locusfnp :)19:30
MSameeri hope it will work on n919:30
MSameerit says n95019:30
MSameervkb is not my area but i will try my best19:31
locusfI don't know if I'll make a third one, if the official ks is updated and an image pops out of the release management19:31
locusfMSameer: its ok, it will still work with N919:31
faenillocusf, yeah19:31
MSameerfaenil: BTW are you ok?19:32
faenilyeah thanks :) busy with study these days...uni exams approaching19:32
faenilwhat about you?19:32
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faenileheh19:32
MSameerfaenil: good luck :)19:32
faenilnah just read the backlog :P19:32
MSameergah, I need to charge that n9 first19:33
locusfafk for a while19:34
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MSameerok19:40
MSameeri need a wall charger for that n919:40
locusfok back19:52
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Mrichey everyone; I'm trying to download flasher.3.12.1.amd64 for linux: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php but I'm getting "Corrupted Content Error". It is just me ?20:28
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Morpog_PCMric, same here20:31
MricMorpog_PC, thx for trying any idea where I could download the flasher ?20:32
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Morpog_PCyeah, but I forgot the URL20:32
MricMorpog_PC, skeiron mirror gives me "NO"20:32
Morpog_PCyeah should be on skeiron20:33
Mricskeiron.org doesn't work for me20:33
Morpog_PChttp://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/20:33
Mriccool thanks20:34
Morpog_PCyw20:34
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MSameerthat wayland image is not booting20:50
MSameeraha20:50
MSameerit did20:51
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faenilMSameer, zypper remove maliit-plugins-maliit-keyboard20:56
MSameerbut wouldn't that remove vkb?20:57
faenilnope, that package has Maliit's default vkb, which is not what we use21:00
faenilI thought the same, so I included the package in the .ks, but it's not needed21:00
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faeniland I think it actually also creates conflicts with nemo's keyboard21:00
MSameerfaenil: pulseaudio works21:00
faenilMSameer, try qmediaplayer21:01
MSameerfaenil: zypper in gst-plugins-good21:01
MSameer gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc ! pulsesink21:01
MSameeryou will hear a tone21:01
MSameerfaenil: i am sure audio will work after you nstall gst-plugins-good21:02
MSameerfaenil: the only issue is it will pull in libxdamage21:02
MSameerbut we can see where the dependency comes from and drop it easily21:02
faenilah ok :)21:02
MSameer /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstximagesrc.so21:03
MSameerthat's a potential candidate for dropping21:03
faenileh :P21:03
MSameerwe also need to build gstreamer waylandsink21:03
MSameerif you remind me tomorrow then i can do it :)21:03
faenilok great :D21:04
MSameeris there a media player?21:04
MSameerfonts are too tiny for my eyes to read21:04
faenilqmlgallery should play videos21:04
faeniland music player should play music21:04
faenil(I wrote qmlgallery, I saw videos working on X11, but it was months ago :D)21:04
faenilwe haven't tested on wayland :P21:05
faenilw00t, maliit time?21:05
MSameermusic insists i have no music21:08
faenil\o/ :D21:08
MSameerand seems tracker is busted21:08
MSameerCould not establish a connection to Tracker: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=7556f761cfc914aeee81cac200000010 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n21:08
faenilyay21:08
MSameergst-launch-0.10 playbin2 uri=file:///home/nemo/Music/maZikaty.com_Zein-Mahmoud_Yabki-W-Yad7ak.ogg21:09
MSameerthat gives sound21:09
MSameerso sound and pulse audio are working21:09
faenilok great :)21:09
MSameeri wonder where does that tracker error come from21:09
MSameeri am sure if we fix that, music will find and play oggs21:09
MSameerdbus-x11-1.6.8-1.1.9.armv7hl21:10
faenilMSameer, are you starting it from ssh?21:10
MSameeryup21:10
MSameerno21:10
MSameerno music from lipstick21:10
faenilare you setting dbus address?21:10
MSameerbut tracker-info from ssh21:10
MSameersure no :D21:11
faenil:D21:11
MSameerhow do you do that?21:11
faenilDBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket21:11
MSameerbut dbus-launch is contained in dbus-x11 and it links against libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x3aab5000)21:11
faeniltry setting the address; ;)21:12
MSameeri did21:13
MSameernow tracker shows the file21:13
MSameerwhy is music not showing it?21:13
faenilno idea check source21:13
MSameerit actually finds it21:16
MSameerbut tapping play does nothing21:16
faenilok21:16
MSameerat least pulse works21:18
faenil:)21:18
MSameerso the rest seems to be qt multimedia21:18
MSameerfaenil: nusic works21:19
MSameer zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:20
faenilmm strange it's not set as requirement of the package21:20
MSameerfaenil: and gallery can play ogg theora videos now21:20
faenilMSameer, awesome :)21:20
MSameerso gst-plugins-bad qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:20
MSameerthose should be required by apps or added to ks :)21:21
faenildon't know if they should be requiremente21:21
faenilotherwise you should add all kind of codecs to the Requires section21:21
MSameeri guess they should go to ks21:21
MSameerbut qt bits i am not sure really21:22
faenilMSameer, isn't there any redistribution policy about the gst plugins?21:23
faenilI remember they had special licences21:23
faenil(afaik)21:23
MSameerwe are using ogg only so no issues21:25
MSameeri have been thinking about packaging the rest of the problematic plugins and hosting them somewhere else though21:26
faenilwe're using egg, but the package has many codecs21:26
MSameeri just need to setup a warez obs :D21:26
faenilahahha :D21:26
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MSameerfaenil: plugins-good should have no issues :)21:26
faenileheh21:27
faenilhttps://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmusicplayer/blob/master/rpm/qmlmusicplayer.spec#L1921:27
faenilI definitely think qt5-qtmultimedia at least should go there21:28
MSameerqt5-qtmultimedia-gsttools qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:29
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MSameeri think those should come from ks or pattern21:30
qwazixfaenil, back21:30
faenilMSameer, ok thanks :) what about the mediaplayer, what do you think is worth adding as requirement?21:30
MSameeri think nothing21:30
MSameergst-plugins-good should be in ks too21:31
faenilMSameer, not even qt5-qtmultimedia?21:31
MSameerit's a platform facility?21:31
faenilyeah21:31
MSameerfaenil: if it uses it then we add it21:31
faenilwell, BuildRequires:  pkgconfig(Qt5Multimedia)21:32
MSameerso i think the missing part is qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:32
qwazixfaenil, I don't know if this helps, I have no experience in rpm http://pkgs.org/opensuse-12.3/opensuse-oss-i586/google-opensans-fonts-1.0-6.1.1.noarch.rpm.html21:32
MSameerfaenil: i did:21:32
MSameer[root@localhost Music]# zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:32
MSameerThe following NEW packages are going to be installed:21:33
MSameer  qt5-qtmultimedia-gsttools qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:33
MSameerThe following packages are going to be upgraded:21:33
MSameer  qt5-qtdeclarative-import-multimedia qt5-qtmultimedia21:33
faenilqwazix, I've seen the .spec from openSuse already ;)21:33
MSameerso it had to be upgraded21:33
MSameerso maybe the upgraded qtmultimedia pulls them by default?21:33
faenilwhat do you think it pulls in21:35
MSameerqt5-qtmultimedia-gsttools qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer  maybe?21:36
faenilmy qtmultimedia is updated21:36
faeniland they're not installed21:36
MSameermmm21:37
MSameerthen they need to come from the ks or pattern i guess21:37
faenilok21:37
faenilotoh, gst-bad-free is installed by default21:37
MSameeryeah that's needed for camera :p21:38
faenilnokia-videosrc21:38
MSameeryup21:38
faenilok21:38
MSameeri think so21:38
MSameerbut volume keys are not working21:40
faenilI think you didn't understand how alpha this image is :D21:40
MSameeri do :)21:41
faenilwhat about the status bar with signal, wifi, battery? :D21:41
MSameerbut i am reporting issues :P21:41
faenilyeah sure ;)21:41
faenilMSameer, oh bt21:41
faenilbtwe21:41
faenilfeel free to update21:41
faenilhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix21:41
Hurrianqwazix: Looks good!21:43
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faenilHurrian, o/21:43
HurrianHaven't thought of that kind of active state before, but it's nice21:43
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qwazixhappy to hear it. I admit that it looks a bit too much on paper but with a thumb over it it will be subtle21:44
faenil:)21:44
qwazixalso Hurrian, I was thinking maybe we made the slider and switch a bit more flat, what do you think? IMO they look a bit out of place21:45
Hurrianhmm, yeah, could do with a subtler gradient21:45
qwazixI imagine something more like the N9 volume bar21:46
qwazix(or your clock bars)21:46
Hurrianqwazix: mmm. alright, sure.21:46
Hurrianthe clock bars for regular slide controls are overkill ;)21:46
faenilagree :P21:47
faenilw00t, it's about time to go to bed here :D21:47
qwazixnot so thick, no, I mean the design language, flat and no rounded corners21:47
Hurrianyep, just like the N9 volume bar.21:48
qwazixok perfect21:48
qwazixalso, while the idea for the active slider looks stunning, the number will be under the users thumb21:49
faenilqwazix, no, it will move up21:50
faenilor right21:50
faenildon't remember :P21:50
faenilbut Hurrian already cleared that point up21:50
qwazixHurrian? up or right?21:51
Hurrianto the right, but when the bubble collides with the edge of the screen, it moves up21:51
faenilright when you're sliding21:51
faeniland up when it gets to the end21:51
faeniloh ok he replied already XD21:51
qwazixok21:52
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Morpog_PCguys, do maliit themes have same files on nemo as on harmattan?22:25
faenilno idea22:25
Morpog_PCI just created glacier VKB theme for harmattan :)22:26
faenilgreat :)22:26
Morpog_PCso could be usable for nemo :)22:27
faenilonce we get it to work xD22:27
Morpog_PChttp://abload.de/img/2013-08-30_00-30-499esui.png22:28
Morpog_PCthere it is22:28
faenilvery nice :) looks different from glacier though22:29
faenillooks kind of plastic22:29
faenildon't know22:29
faenilmaybe colours are a bit different?22:30
Morpog_PCa bit only22:30
specialnemo's VKB is QML.22:30
faenilspecial, yeah but doesn't it have a style or something?22:31
specialnothing too formal, size variables and images22:31
faenilok22:32
faenilMorpog_PC, https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins/source/a4e90d60afabc0935a63608112dd3ff35199bc36:nemo-keyboard22:32
faenilouch sorry22:32
faenilthat's the old repo22:32
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faenilMorpog_PC, https://github.com/maliit/plugins/tree/master/nemo-keyboard22:32
Morpog_PChmm, different image sizes22:33
Morpog_PCsvg and png mixed?22:33
NeeDforKillfaenil22:34
specialyou'd have to look and see which are actually used.22:34
NeeDforKillcan u give me link for latest image22:34
faenilNeeDforKill, latest image is from few days ago22:34
faenilI recommend building a new one if you have Mer SDK instaleld22:34
NeeDforKilli need link bro22:34
NeeDforKillno,i haven't22:34
faenilthen look on backlog :) http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html22:35
NeeDforKillhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/kr8sre1ob2cglps/n950-270820131123.tar.bz222:37
NeeDforKill,22:37
NeeDforKill?22:37
Morpog_PCfaenil, great, will have a look when I got some time. Maybe on sunday if I'm not too wasted from Friday and Saturday partys :)22:37
faenilNeeDforKill, probably22:37
faenilMorpog_PC, ahaha22:38
qwazixHurrian, approve? http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=46522:40
HurrianApproved.22:40
faenilahah :)22:40
Morpog_PCqwazix, the diagonal lines look weird if images get stretched22:41
NeeDforKilllooks nice22:41
Morpog_PCjust noticed that on my maliit theme for harmattan22:41
qwazixMorpog_PC, why get stretched? it's meant to be tiled22:41
qwazixHurrian, NeeDforKill, thx22:42
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Morpog_PCsure, but default maliit VKB on harmattan does stretching. Just wanted to notice that we have to avoid strechting then.22:42
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Morpog_PCnice job on components definitions btw qwazix22:43
NeeDforKillmaliit it's input component?22:43
Hurrianbef0rd: check for DCC viruses?22:43
qwazixMorpog_PC, :nod:22:43
qwazixand thanks22:43
Hurrianqwazix: Qt/QML can do scaling for us, right?22:44
Hurrian*DPI scaling22:44
qwazixHurrian, no, it can't22:44
qwazixwe have to fix that ourselves22:45
Hurrianah22:45
qwazixeither like ubuntu, pass all sizes through a function           u(36)22:45
qwazixwhich has a small performance penalty22:45
Hurrian…or like Android, which has layouts per DPI size?22:45
qwazixor by multiplying everything with a constant22:46
qwazixanother way is to patch Qt but we probably don't want to do that22:46
Hurrianwhat won't tax an ARM CPU?22:46
Hurrianwe don't exactly need pixel-perfect accuracy here22:46
qwazixfor the problem with android (and in fact any other platform) see http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=45622:47
qwazixwith the units I am proposing the developer knows how large one will see a control on the screen regardless of device or dpi22:48
qwazixnow we've got to solve the problem with bitmaps, and we have several solutions for that, but that's for another post22:49
qwazixspoiler: none is perfect22:49
Hurrianmmm. sounds good.22:49
Hurrianas for bitmaps - either we store really big bitmaps, or have different resource packages per dpi22:50
qwazixor we have svg resources and convert them to bitmaps (a) at compile time or (b) at installation time22:50
qwazix(a) requires different rpm's for different devices and (b) makes installations longer22:51
qwazixqt even supports displaying svg's but Qt guru's say it's a hog (and svg support is limited)22:51
Hurrianqwazix: how about how python compiles .py into .pyc? we could ship svgs with packages, and just have imagemagick or something convert them during install22:51
qwazixyeah, that's (b)22:52
qwazixI'm leaning towards that myself22:52
Hurrianmeh, install is already expected to take some time, so let's just have that22:52
Morpog_PCvoting for (b) unless it takes takes :)22:52
qwazixthat also allows for scaling down big bitmaps if the developer doesn't want to use svg for some reason22:53
qwazixwe just need a scaling postinst script for the nemo boilerplate rpm22:54
Morpog_PComg22:54
Morpog_PCunless it takes ages of course :)22:54
qwazixwhich reads an environment variable containing the scaling factor and converts22:55
qwazixIt shouldn't take ages. I believe it will be unnoticeable, but we'll have to test22:55
qwazixAnyway, I'm off to bed. Have a good night22:56
Morpog_PCsame here22:56
Morpog_PCnight all22:56
faenilwo wo, missed a discussion here22:58
faenilMorpog_PC, night22:58
faenilqwazix, night23:00
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