Tuesday, 2014-03-11

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stephgNING!08:11
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stephgany of you guys seen/have opinions about Cotton Candy?08:17
stephg(www.fxitech.com), Dual core A9, 1GB,08:18
Stskeepsgood guys behind it at least08:23
stephgI bought one waaaay back when (during the wilderness years) and just remembered it's in my desk at work when I saw your HDMI tjc post08:24
* stephg reminds himself to take fast μSD cards into work08:24
Stskeepsandroid build exists for it dosen't it08:24
stephgyeah there's an ICS and also an Ubuntu for it08:25
stephgbut I've not looked at it for over a year08:25
stephgwebsite seems stale but the forum and the blog are still alive08:26
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Sfiet_Konstantinping veskuh10:58
Sfiet_KonstantinI know you are here, don't hide10:58
Sfiet_Konstantinor maybe you are at lunch10:58
Sfiet_KonstantinI wanted to comment on https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/issues/3410:59
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause I would like to add a lib to nemo and then plug it in sailfish browser10:59
Sfiet_Konstantinthe idea is to have a nemo qml plugin that process the link and redirect to invoker / app if needed11:00
Sfiet_Konstantinso basically, app developers installs a file in a specific folder that is processed by this plugin11:00
Sfiet_KonstantinI would love to know what do you think about it11:00
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, yeah, that would need to go to lower level. So the url handlers are in embedlite-components11:01
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: can't you just handle it in UI side ?11:01
Sfiet_Konstantinhttps://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/blob/master/src/pages/BrowserPage.qml#L113 here ?11:02
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, that is just when user enters url or external url is coming, when user taps link engine handles it11:02
Sfiet_Konstantinah :(11:03
Sfiet_Konstantincan embelite be built by linking to a Qt lib ?11:03
Sfiet_Konstantin(so a liburlsolver to solve links)11:03
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, so what you want to do is things like this https://github.com/tmeshkova/embedlite-components/blob/master/jscomps/GeoProtocolHandler.js11:03
veskuhso that handles geo: protocol and calls xdg-open for it11:04
Sfiet_Konstantin:O11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinit is js :(11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinveskuh: what would be the best way, in your opinion, to have an extensible url handler then ?11:05
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, you should ask rozhkov_  he did the protocol manager extensions we have11:07
Sfiet_Konstantinthen rozhkov_ ^11:07
Sfiet_KonstantinI asked you because you did the ui, and I thought that it is more UI related11:08
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's all :)11:08
veskuhSfiet_Konstantin, :)11:08
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rozhkov_Sfiet_Konstantin: if you mean that clicking a http:// url on a page would start an app instead of loading the url then it's no different from firefox add-on11:30
rozhkov_Sfiet_Konstantin: like this one e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/url-relay/?src=search11:30
Sfiet_Konstantinrozhkov_: I just want to reproduce the interesting thing from Android11:30
Sfiet_Konstantinwhen you click on a twitter link, inside chrome / firefox on android, it proposes you to open it in twitter app / browser, same for youtube: it can be opened inside android youtube app11:31
rozhkov_Sfiet_Konstantin: isn't it a JS on the page that offers it?11:32
Sfiet_Konstantindon't think so11:32
Sfiet_Konstantinit is the installed app that offers it11:32
veskuhRight, so it calls android activity that has registered it as protocol11:34
veskuhlike this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3471503/how-to-listen-for-a-custom-uri11:35
veskuhyeah, we'd need to do some work to get there, but I do agree that it would be nice to have11:36
Sfiet_Konstantinnot only custom uri11:36
Sfiet_Konstantinbut also url schemes11:36
Sfiet_Konstantin(twitter.com/<username> for example)11:37
rozhkov_it's possible of course, but it needs some thoughts. to handle different protocols we'd need to register protocol handlers.11:41
rozhkov_url schemas are possible too11:41
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Sfiet_Konstantinrozhkov_: ok11:52
Sfiet_Konstantinlook sane11:52
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Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: ping12:47
Sfiet_Konstantinor any nemo dev12:47
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: pong12:47
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm thinking about building a sailfishos emu, but with nemo instead12:48
Sfiet_Konstantinfrom source12:48
Sfiet_Konstantininterested ?12:48
locusfwhy not12:48
Sfiet_Konstantinand show me your nemo components homescreen ;)12:48
locusfwith qtc bindings?12:48
locusfsure :)12:48
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: what kind of qtc bindings ?12:49
Sfiet_Konstantinbasically, with a mer sdk build system12:49
Sfiet_Konstantinand an emulator based on nemo vm image :)12:49
locusfhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/19700113234847.png12:50
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: code in a specific branch ?12:50
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: like running the app12:50
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: in my repo12:50
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: yep12:50
Sfiet_Konstantinin github ?12:50
Sfiet_Konstantinawesome <312:51
Sfiet_KonstantinI like this12:51
Sfiet_Konstantinbut why not fork colorful home ?12:51
locusfhttps://github.com/locusf/glacier-home12:51
locusfwell its not a fork really, too many old qt components which we have yet to do in Glacier qtcomponents12:52
locusfI guess :)12:52
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: what about forking and migrating to qtcomponents one by one ?12:52
locusfcould work12:52
locusfbut I wanted 5o start fresh with 100% glacier components12:53
locusf*to12:53
Sfiet_Konstantink12:53
Sfiet_KonstantinI can look at the mess in colorful home then12:53
Sfiet_Konstantin:)12:53
locusfokay :)12:53
locusfgotta go now, see you laters12:54
Sfiet_Konstantinnp12:54
Sfiet_Konstantinbye12:54
Sfiet_Konstantinme too anyway12:54
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niqthi13:51
Sfiet_Konstantinhi niqt13:51
niqtSfiet_Konstantin I have been absent from the channel for 15 days, there are news?14:01
Sfiet_Konstantinniqt: I have been absent for 15 days too14:01
Sfiet_Konstantinso ...14:01
Sfiet_Konstantinlogs helps though14:01
niqttoo many people absent :)14:04
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Sfiet_Konstantinstudies etc :(14:12
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locusfyep studies :/14:20
sledgestwitter tries to amalgamate news14:21
sledgeslocusf: good work on the homescreen genesis14:21
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locusfsledges: thanks :)14:57
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Sfiet_Konstantinmorning sledges14:59
Sfiet_Konstantinhow are you14:59
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm depressed by the state of thinkpads :(14:59
Sfiet_KonstantinI need an update but cannot have one14:59
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: im very thanks, busy times :)15:05
sledgesjust have some lean linux in a thinkpad ;)15:05
sledgesi got one myself, probably will be enough for ArchBang Linux15:05
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Yanielarch <315:05
sledgesYaniel: <315:05
sledges:D15:05
Sfiet_KonstantinYaniel: <315:05
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, the problem is about keyboard15:06
* sledges is running ArchBang on all laptops around me now, and the youngest one is 5 years old :)15:06
YanielI tend to forget how slow the rpi really is because of it :D15:06
Sfiet_Konstantin:D15:06
sledgesyou want to upgrade the keyboard Sfiet_Konstantin ? :)15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: and ram15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinupgrade kbd, ram, cpu15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinor let's say: update cpu / ram, by keeping the X201's kbd15:09
sledgesjap :)15:10
sledgeslenovo no? ;)15:10
Sfiet_Konstantin??15:10
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w540/?sb=:000000F0:000003DD:&cid=uk:cse:110129&cid=uk:sem:6SnaYS15:12
Sfiet_Konstantinw ?15:13
sledgesmore like: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/33107504120915:13
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: buying a new one - best upgrade :))15:13
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yep, I need to buy a new one15:13
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, one that have a good kbd15:13
Sfiet_Konstantinworried about the new lenovo kbds15:14
sledgeshow about that one from ebay?15:14
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: the t420 kbd looks good15:14
Sfiet_Konstantinhum ...15:14
Sfiet_Konstantinneed to think about it15:14
Sfiet_Konstantinactually, was thinking about getting x240(t ?)15:15
Sfiet_Konstantinbut the kbd thing looks strange15:15
sledgesheh, and i thought you were talking about still IBM thinkpads (the one i just mentioned is R40e here :D )15:19
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Sfiet_Konstantinyep15:20
Sfiet_Konstantinthe lenovo ones are strange15:20
Sfiet_Konstantinfirst iterations of lenovos (x20x, t420 etc) are good15:21
* sledges nods15:21
Sfiet_Konstantinnewer, with win 8 are horrible :(15:21
locusfI'd kill for a good lenovo lappy15:21
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Sfiet_KonstantinI'd kill for a lenovo x240 with my x201's kbd15:22
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sledgestinkertime :D15:26
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: thinking about it15:29
locusfso where do we start with the nemo emulator Sfiet_Konstantin15:33
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: tomorrow, when I emptied enough space from my dd and rebuild QtC :P15:34
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: okay15:34
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: hummm, wait for x250 I guess :D15:35
locusfI'll start wondering why my homescreen doesn't show the icons15:43
locusfand is forever at landscape15:43
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: the landscape thing might be because we dont' support orientation ?15:44
locusfon Page yes15:44
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locusfwell that fell short, no ssh to my n915:54
locusfand no wifi working either15:55
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Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: building qt 416:48
Sfiet_Konstantinsee you tomorrow :D16:48
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: lol16:50
locusfwhy?16:51
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: well, Qt takes ages to build16:52
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Sfiet_Konstantinespecially webkit16:52
Sfiet_Konstantinthinking about building it statically and qtcreator too16:52
locusfyeah but why are you building it16:52
locusfoh ok16:52
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: Nemo SDK16:52
Sfiet_Konstantin:)16:52
locusfah16:53
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm trying to build the Sailfish version of the SDK and will try to customize the thing16:53
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locusfnice17:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: hum, strategic shift: don't recompile, use Mer SDK shipped in SailfishOS :D17:28
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: the VM?17:31
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Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: at least, use QtC17:32
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe the MerSDK VM17:32
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't know yet, but compiling QtC seems to be hard / impossible17:33
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause I searched for the patches for MerSDK in Qt Gerrit and found out that they are all abandonned17:33
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't know if there is a codebase where Mer plugin is developed17:33
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locusflbt might know17:51
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m4g0ggood night20:56
m4g0gDoes somebody has an example of nemo-transfer-engine?20:56
sledgesm4g0g: go to https://github.com/nemomobile/transfer-engine/commits/master and see who's working on it, then ping their names here21:00
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m4g0gzchydem ping21:02
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sledgesblam__: ^ ping21:13
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