Thursday, 2014-04-17

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stephghappy thursday!06:35
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Deformatlocusf, you around?09:17
Deformator maybe Sfiet_Konstantin? or heck, qwazix09:21
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Sfiet_KonstantinDeformat: here09:21
Deformatright, wondering if this looks okay as a style for the calendar:09:21
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Deformat(morning faenil!)09:22
Deformatwondering if I got the style right09:22
Deformatmaybe @faenil, you could give your say as well? :D09:23
Sfiet_KonstantinDeformat: sounds good IMO09:24
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever better ask qwazix, our master :D09:24
Sfiet_KonstantinDeformat: don't think that the squares around calendar entries are right09:25
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Sfiet_Konstantinlove the dots around the date to indicate the number of events09:25
DeformatI could simply put some lines to create a border of sorts instead09:26
faenilDeformat, having breakfast first ;)09:27
Deformatoh, okay xD09:27
Sfiet_KonstantinDeformat: maybe you can try with nothing ?09:29
DeformatWith nothing it feels kinda bland09:29
Deformatlike something is missing09:29
Deformattho it could work as well09:29
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Sfiet_KonstantinI prefer this imo09:43
Sfiet_Konstantinno heavy components in UI09:43
DeformatI think I like it as well09:43
Deformatthanks for the idea09:43
Sfiet_Konstantindo like jolla, add a vertical bar09:43
Deformatdunno, gimme a sec to check out09:44
Deformatyou mean09:46
Deformata pulley menu for other options?09:46
Deformator a vertical bar for number of events?09:46
faenilso... :)09:46
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Sfiet_KonstantinDeformat: no, a vertical colored bar in front of agenda items, so you have a delimited in the items09:47
Sfiet_Konstantinand the color can be used to tell the agenda09:47
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Deformatlike this @faenil Sfiet_Konstantin?09:51
faenilbetter :)09:51
Sfiet_Konstantinperfect :)09:51
Sfiet_Konstantinlooks pretty pretty09:51
DeformatYeah, well, it could be always better. I'm going to work on the other menus as well, hope qwazix likes what's here right now09:52
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faenilDeformat, also don't forget the specs, at the end of the day ;)09:53
Deformat^that as well09:54
DeformatI made all text in 12-24-36 pixels09:54
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Deformatargh, and gotta fix the blue color as well >.>09:55
Deformat(to match Morpog's)09:55
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, locusf please don't kill me when I push the's a bit long, and it's 1 commit...please, don't :D10:05
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: :(10:08
faenilthere were a lot of circular dependencies in the changes I did, I couldn't find a decent way to split the big part of it10:08
faenilso I'd rather keep it in one big block, than split it in non-working pieces10:09
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* faenil sees a trout in Sfiet_Konstantin's hands, and runs10:11
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: alright, let's review10:12
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, it's not pushed yet10:12
faenildoing final touches10:12
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: np, take your time10:15
Sfiet_Konstantin(because I would prefer review it as late as possible, since it's huge :P10:15
faenilit's been around forever, I'm looking forward to closing this chapter xD10:16
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qwazixDeformat, nice job!10:30
qwazixI prefer the one without borders too. I would go as far as to say to lose the border between the two areas too10:30
qwazixthe background color change is enough10:31
faenilyeah, that could be even better10:34
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faenilqwazix, what was the default page background in the end?10:38
faenilbecause, if it's black, I can't see the header dimmer, which I wasted 3 days on, to make it work decently with UI rotations, lol10:38
qwazixfaenil, the default is black, but you didn't waste your time because the dimmer is for apps like the gallery and browser, that show fullscreen content10:39
faenilfullscreen + header10:40
qwazixyeah, not fullscreen, full-canvas10:40
qwazixor how do you say that?10:41
faenildon't know :)10:41
faenilqwazix, do you have 3 b/w icons handy? to put them in the header example10:49
faenilI'm using 3 3-dots :D10:49
faenilqwazix, that's the last thing missing :)10:59
faenillet me know when you're back10:59
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qwazixyeah, I can export those that we used on the spec11:05
qwazixwhat size do you need them? i.e. are we still using 854x480 as reference or have we moved to jolla's resolution?11:05
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faenilahmmmm... qwazix I don't know :D11:10
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qwazixthat means we're still having N9 as reference11:10
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qwazixI'm going to update all the specs replacing paddings and text sizes with constants. I'll use p.s p.m p.l as constants because of space restrictions. Explanation will be provided in seperate pdf.11:28
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qwazixalso png's will be removed from the specs if nobody objects, one less thing to update and pdf's are lighter and higher quality anyway11:34
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, locusf ^12:10
faenilit's here, finally xD12:10
faenilsledges, ^12:10
faenilwhoever wants to start reviewing.... :)12:10
faenillunch time for me! o/12:10
locusfwow ok will take a look laters12:11
sledgesi always had no clue if a non-working (build breaking) commit yet 1 logical change is a valid commit12:11
sledgeslbt: ^ ?12:14
lbtfaenil: you can typically pre-commit assets12:15
lbtso basically at least you should try to : add new, use new, remove old12:16
lbt(just as a suggestion on "eek it's huge")12:16
lbtqwazix: pdf? svg?12:17
qwazixlbt spec documents12:17
qwazixsee here
qwazixin every folder there's an svg "source" file (which doesn't render okay if you don't have the right fonts installed and a viewer with good svg support) and pdf/png renders of those svg documents12:19
lbtso replace the png 'useful render' with a pdf and retain the svg as src?12:19
qwazixI suggest to remove the png's as redundant, I originally made them for publishing to the blog12:19
lbtty  - just keeping myself informed12:20
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qwazixyay for FilteringMouseArea :)12:23
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locusfhuge kekkonen that is12:32
Sfiet_Konstantin51 files changed faenil Oo12:33
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locusfloving the comments though12:53
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faenillbt, can you elaborate more? I didn't get what you meant13:02
faenil(maybe I did, but not sure)13:02
lbtfaenil: np - just saying that if you can't do a functional breakdown of a commit then looking for things which you can add w/o changing existing code is good13:03
lbtso add new classes, assets etc etc13:03
lbtthen change the code to use them13:03
lbtthen remove redundant stuff13:03
lbtjust to help reviewers with breaking down the task13:03
lbtalso not all commits need to be bisect-safe in all projects :)13:04
faenillbt, yeah ok13:06
faenillbt, I hate bisect-unsafe commits, personally xD13:06
faenilbut I understand that it has its drawbacks :/13:06
lbthow often do you bisect?13:06
faenillbt, not using bisect as in the git feature here13:07
lbtfor that I'd suggest that a patchset may be a useful concept13:08
lbtbut this is a suggestion for policy for the project13:08
lbtdepends what's more important13:08
faenillbt, one thing is for sure, someone will hate me for this :D13:13
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, btw, the real changes are 2-3 files13:16
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: yep, I found out that you changed a lot of example files + autogenerated ones13:17
faenilApplicationWindow, Header, and HeaderToolsLayout are the most important ones13:18
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locusffaenil: it didn't affect glacier-home in no way, I already planned on moving the toolbar to the bottom13:20
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faenillocusf, good luck adjusting the logic13:21
locusffaenil: no need, I use Page as parent and the toolbar is just a child item for it13:23
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faenilyes but you can't just put Header at the bottom13:23
faenil(or you're just using Toolbar?)13:23
locusfRectangle :p13:24
locusffor now13:24
faenilah ok, no problem :D13:24
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locusfall edge swipes now lock/unlock the UI \o/13:24
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faenilI'm not sure though the current header can be hidden, may need a few anchors changes13:27
faenilbtw, I'm moving to Windows, got to play a little bit, after banging my head on QML issues for the last few days 24/7 xD13:28
faenilI'll be back, sooner or later :)13:29
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sledgeso/ thanks faenil :)13:30
faenilsledges, np...I hope it builds at least, I haven't tested on OBS, I had a slightly modified spec to deploy it on jolla :)13:30
locusffaenil: what did you need?13:31
locusfand thanks faenil13:31
faenillocusf, to deploy it?13:31
locusffaenil: yes13:31
faeniljust added macros to the spec13:31
faeniland changes qmake and makeinstall lines13:31
locusfI don't need the macros13:31
faenilyeah well, you can replace with the commands if you want the macros :D13:32
faenildon't* want13:32
faenilbbl o/13:32
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, if you start reviewing and need explanations, just DM me on twitter ;)13:33
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: I will do this :)13:33
faenilor, know what, I'm joining with my Jolla :D13:33
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faenil_jpew pew13:35
faenil_jSfiet_Konstantin: is it working13:36
locusfall swipes except the left outside pagestack swipe are now working qwazix13:37
qwazixthe left pagestack swipe should do the same thing for the time being13:38
locusf <- the swipes from here I mean13:39
qwazixthe left swipe should fall back to minimizing the app if there arent pages to flip13:39
locusfactually it does that in Sailfish apps13:40
locusfah no13:40
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qwazixand since we havent got any glacier apps yet (i.e our apps still have a back button) you can set it to do what the other edges do for now, and revisit when we work on the actual pageStack13:41
locusfwe gotta propagate the event from the compositor then13:42
locusfbut its probably nothing big as we could prepare for it13:43
locusfbtw the lockscreen animation is the jump up/down now, should it be a opacity shift instead?13:44
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locusfupdated the PR #8 commit13:50
locusfjust need a review now :)13:50
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qwazixlocusf, it should be like harmattan (just like swiping an app away)14:00
locusfah so depending on the swipe its horizontal/vertical?14:00
qwazixand on tap, or invalid swipe we need an informative nudge, maybe even more obvious than harmattan (more like the latest informative animations on sailfish, with the circle and all)14:02
qwazixbecause I saw quite a lot of people that couldn't unlock their N9 at first, and even thinking that it's the speed of the swipe that did the difference14:03
locusfhmm I should really study harmattan more14:11
qwazixI really believe that they hit a sweet spot with swipe UI there, all later implementations overdid it a little bit14:15
locusfqwazix: so Jolla or harmattan did hit the sweet spot?14:17
qwazixIMO harmattan, sailfish tried a little bit too hard. Not as much as BB10 or Win8, but it is less intuitive than N914:18
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locusfI should probably slow down on the PR's14:21
locusfqwazix: oh14:21
locusfthree different prs now :p14:22
locusfthe latest one is the most important for the new toolbarless page14:23
qwazixjust pushed specs with updated and more consistent sizes, declared as variables and not as absolute sizes. Variable values can be found in "text constants" file in root directory of the repo. Don't rush to change anything, most changes are minor. If you happen to be working on something that has hardcoded values and can be replaced by a theme variable, by all means.14:34
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locusfok good14:40
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locusfsledges: if you got time, could you take a look on the PR's?15:02
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qwazixtime and date picker specs
qwazixplease comment if you find something obviously missing15:38
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locusfseems like a lot of fun to be had on the qml side :)15:49
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qwazixlocusf, the circular timepicker is almost done (twice) see
qwazixmisses the 24h functionality and styling of course15:54
qwazix(also misses animation between two points because qml 1.0 didn't have pathanimation, now it should be relatively easy to do)15:55
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Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: the problem is more about the color circle16:01
Sfiet_Konstantinto paint this will eb fun16:01
Sfiet_KonstantinBTW, the design is awesome16:02
qwazixthanks :)16:02
Sfiet_Konstantinlooks a lot WP actually, but I like the neon style16:02
locusfwe've got a cooler timepicker than the Jolla boys :)16:02
qwazixwhy can't the circle just be a rectangle with radius?16:02
qwazixand another one black inside it16:02
qwazixbecause then we'll need a black wedge, which I suppose is equally difficult16:04
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locusfsledges: thanks for lgtm:ing16:34
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locusfevening faenil16:53
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faenilmm it's the 2nd time that irc on jolla disconnects :/ and I haven't moved the phone16:56
faenilanyway, bbl16:56
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Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: don't think that it's easy: the fact is that the shape is not symmetrical17:06
Sfiet_Konstantinso we either need painter, or canevas17:07
qwazix:nod: yeah, you are right17:07
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qwazixand some analytic geometry17:07
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Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: not much imo17:15
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sledgeslocusf: np, and thank you :)17:17
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hschmitt_I have another calendar question, but this time it is middleware ;)17:31
hschmitt_which component syncs google calendar account? I thought it would be buteo? But I did not find any code for it17:31
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Sfiet_Konstantinhschmitt_: I think that it's related to Jolla internals17:33
Sfiet_Konstantinin Nemo there is nothing that sync google stuff17:33
Sfiet_Konstantinwe only have the daemon (buteo)17:34
hschmitt_but it is only for contacts17:34
hschmitt_Sfiet_Konstantin: makes sense for calendar because I did not find anything17:36
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hschmitt_which keeps the link between mkcal db entry and uuid for sync with google17:38
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faenilhschmitt_, also, that repo hasn't been updated in 6months, so I doubt that's what jolla is using17:48
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faenilI wonder why those parts are closed source :(17:51
Stskeepswhich parts17:51
faenilsync providers17:51
faenillike google cal and contacts17:51
faenilit's not jolla's invention, so...why :/17:53
faenilit's not something special...17:53
hschmitt_and it has a bug, which I am trying to track17:53
hschmitt_and I can't17:54
hschmitt_but thanks17:55
Stskeepsare you sure they're closed source..?17:56
Stskeepsgive me some package names to provie t17:56
Stskeepsprove it17:56
faenilif you can prove it's OSS, you win :)17:57
* Stskeeps goes look17:57
* faenil has been there already17:58
* faenil hopes he's wrong though17:58
Stskeepsyeah, but you can't look where i can look17:58
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faenilsure, well, I didn't find it in the OSS world :p17:59
Stskeepsbuteo-mtp-qt5 | buteo-sync-plugin-caldav | buteo-sync-plugins-google | buteo-sync-plugins-google-simple | buteo-sync-plugins-qt5 | buteo-syncfw-qt5 | buteo-syncml-qt5 ?17:59
faenilStskeeps, yes, that's probably the *old* repo before jolla switched to closed source or something?18:00
aard_Stskeeps: google sync is part of sociald, which is a buteo-plugin as well, based on buteo-sync-plugins-google18:00
faenilit's missing calendar and it's been updated 6-7months ago last time18:00
Stskeepsaard_: ah..18:00
faenilI really don't think that's what Jolla using18:00
faenilaard_, thanks :)18:00
Stskeepsand sociald isn't oss18:00
aard_we should check about that, though, as the intention for the whole google sync was to have it opensource18:01
Stskeepsok, fair enough, that needs a looking at18:01
* Stskeeps sends mail to himself18:01
* faenil has a deja-vu, I'm quite sure I already had this discussion a few months ago with Stskeeps :p18:02
aard_legally it's fine, as we wrote the code, but it's not what was intended18:02
faenilStskeeps, check logs, 22 december :p18:04
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M4rtinKI'll just note that some of the calendar functionality has been reportedly torn out of KDE (according to a KDE developer)18:27
M4rtinKso that part should be definitely open :)18:27
Stskeepskcalcore, yes18:29
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hschmitt_yes but my problem is, that the events are not written correctly to mkcal18:34
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vgradeloooooooooong weekend \o/20:05
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sledgesa theme song? ^_^20:18
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